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Monday, January 4, 2021

Don Surber's Case Against A GOP Senate

I'm having trouble finding anything worth writing about today, however ...

Don Surber makes a strong case for conservatives voters in Georgia to give up the Senate to the crazies:

The case against a Republican Senate

It's a longish blog, with Surber riffing off Senator Tim Scott's appeal to Georgia conservatives to get out and vote, and then running through the many ways the GOPe has betrayed conservatives generally and, in the last few years, Trump specifically. However, Surber's argument can be boiled down to two quite brief paragraphs:


A Republican Senate amplifies the power of Mitt Romney, Lisa Murkowski, Susan Collins, and other Never Trumpers. This will enable them to sell their swing votes to the highest bidder in the name of principle.

And they dare ask for our votes while allowing Democrats to steal the presidential election uncontested!


I'm normally one to argue that a bird in the hand is most likely worth two in the bush, but ... It's hard to gainsay Surber. The Senate should be made to pay for their betrayal of Trump--if they aren't held to account, then what will ever change? What other options are there?

The strongest argument against Surber's view may be contained in Monica Showalter's blog on So what did Nancy Pelosi promise The Squad? Showalter explains that the vote was actually much closer than even the final tally of 216-209 would suggest. She then argues that to get the Speakership certainly had to give away the house to the Squad crazies. This will have results:


What did Pelosi offer them in exchange for their votes? What did she offer that would disgust other Democrats and put them in an even more desperate position for re-election? Why did she throw moderation away? 

It comes as a red wave is building in the House, what with Democrats losing more than a dozen seats in the November presidential election, and traditional U.S. political patterns suggesting the Republicans are on track to win anyway. Kowtowing to the Squad and buying them off is going to make the red wave ahead much bigger.


There are a number of things that can be said. Has Pelosi ever been "moderate"? Not by my lights. That other bird, the one in the bush, the coming "red wave"--how red will it really be? 

But perhaps the most important consideration is in the question that Showalter left unanswered: "Why did [Pelosi] throw moderation away?" Is she really desperate to hold on to the Speakership for the prestige alone, or do the Dem power brokers believe that only Pelosi can guide their radical agenda through the House and on to what may well turn out to be a Dem Senate? Would Dems really go for broke in what may be only a two year window, counting on their agenda being cemented in place, never to be repealed by the typically feckless GOP and the Roberts judges? It's possible. It's also out of our control at this point. It was within the control of the GOP, if they had chosen to fight for Trump.


22 comments:

  1. I'd like to punish Senate republicans too; but what if the democrats 1)pack the court
    2)legalize 20 million illegals and give them the right to vote
    What then? How do we recover from that?

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    1. a valid concern, but Trump was a hail Mary play four years ago, when it was just the Deep State, MSM (-FOX), unions, education, and entertainment.

      But think about where we are now: FOX has been outed, Big Tech is exposed, corporate America has transitioned from whore to woke-enforcement, small business America has been decimated, the GOP Senate has gone from 75% to 90% GOPe.

      Do we hang on by our fingernails for a superficial victory or let it go to hell?

      The number of Americans awake to the imminent threat is growing, but is it enough yet? I think probably not.

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    2. @ B Mclaurine, Packing the court will only accelerate the delegitimization it richly deserves. IOW it will uncloak the justices and reveal them to be the morally bankrupt political apparatchiks they are. Excepting Justice Thomas, the SC is a fully paid up member of the Deep State.

      As I recollect, President Trump was the single man in government who didn't want to extend blanket citizenship to the 40 or so million illegals (MIT/Yale study said at least 22 million and probably more than 30 million).

      With or without the two junior clowns from GA, I doubt the GOP could find enough votes to stop Biden from getting what he wants on illegal immigration.

      On this front I yield to Sundance and the contempt he has for the chokehold the Chamber of Commerce has on the RINOS (probably half the (R) senate.

      I'm with Surber. Let the Dems run the table.

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  2. I think Pelosi is confident that the 2020 election steal can successfully expanded to control the entire ballot. Enough Potemkin GOP will be allowed through to fool those that are looking for an excuse to be fooled, but at the end of election day Dem's will hold a majority, in perpetuity.
    Tom S.

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    1. " at the end of election day Dem's will hold a majority, in perpetuity."
      Esp. since the DS will have carte blanche, to sabotage all GOP personnel who may be any danger to this majority, unless DJT can stop the Big Man from the WH.

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    2. As Chucky vividly put it, they'll have "six ways from Sunday"!

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  3. Read Surber. I believe he’s trying to throw the country away to get back at the Republicans who have seriously disappointed a lot of us. He has collected a bunch of old gripes to bolster his argument. On its worst day, I don’t believe a Republican Senate would ever be as bad as a wall-to-wall Democrat presidency and both houses.

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    1. How likely is it the Atlanta Democrats will repeat the fraud tomorrow they got away with on Nov 3? Near 100% I'd say. The same people are in charge. There's no chance of any Republican getting elected tomorrow.

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    2. I think the idea is, you keep doing it until someone tells you to stop. Hasn't happened yet. Barr said none of it affected the outcome of the election.

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    3. The observers will NOT be leaving tomorrow

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    4. @Bebe; Agreed "a Republican Senate would ever be as bad as a wall-to-wall Democrat Presidency and both houses.

      I for one do not look forward to that. At least with a Republican Senate it can try to counter Judicial appt.'s from Biden in so far as cocaine Mitch is not (or is) willing to partner. Perhaps a "freeze" on judicial appt.s for 4 years?

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  4. I have a slight preference for a Gop Senate - It prevents total craziness that is possible with a Democratic Senate. Last time produced Obamacare, and we are still suffering from it. Plus judges.

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  5. Stories I find interesting:

    1. Negative Vote Count for Trump.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/over-432000-votes-removed-trump-pennsylvania-data-scientists-say

    2. Amount Vaccinations by State. The Coumo / Newsom race to see who can mis-manage vaccinations is a tight one! Interesting that Israel is at 10%. US seems to be in the 1-3% per State / Territory, with most states around 1%. And in NY, Covid Vaccinations were given M-F, 8-5PM, and not on Holidays.

    Given:

    - Some people are naturally resistant to Covid
    - Some people already had Covid
    - Covid impacts people more with co-existing conditions.

    How many people need to be vaccinated for a huge drop in deaths / infections?

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  6. "It's also out of our control at this point. It was within the control of the GOP, if they had chosen to fight for Trump."

    So true.

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  7. Why did she throw away moderation? To keep the uniparty establishment power intact and to keep the corrupt money flowing. So far it's working.

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  8. Pelosi promised the "squad" to support and campaign for AOC to defeat Schumer in the next election cycle.

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  9. I like the big picture. This tells me that our system is so broken and so corrupted that it will require a major overhaul. Republican majority in Senate may forestall some of the worst plans of Demokrazis but, really, when elections no longer matter, what is the point? The Uniparty has dropped the mask entirely and brazenly overthrown our republic. If our vote no longer counts, we have no republic. We are officially back to colonial status, 1775. The good news is that there were upwards of 74 million voters who sided with America and against the Uniparty. The Revolution of 1775 was not a mass uprising. The actual revolutionaries were a relatively small group with alot of sympathizers. But don't forget that there were a heckuva lot of royalists who adamantly opposed independence in 1775.

    So all this debate about Republican Senate are analogous to arguing about which colonial governor would be better to rule over us. The real question is whether we are content to be ruled. Because that's what we are right now. If Trump should fail to pull the trigger, so to speak, it will be squarely up to us to either imitate our forbears of 1775 or meekly accept our servitude.

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  10. https://amgreatness.com/2021/01/04/is-it-time-for-nevergop/

    There seems to be a lot of essays on this topic up lately. This expresses my view in general.

    Being Southerners my family had voted Democrat since Andrew Jackson. In 1968 three generations voted for Nixon, not because he was a Republican, but because he had some vision as to how to extract us from the s--t show McNamara's whiz-bang managerial analysts, as Adm Stockdale styled them, had made of Vietnam. They/we continued to vote Republican, not because they weren't feckless and greedy, but because we refused to follow the Democrats into the Bolshevik ditch that the party had been driven into. We voted for Trump specifically because he was NOT a professional politician of either stripe and, like Nixon, he had a vision that did not include abject surrender. We held our noses and voted Republican down ticket in the hope he could put enough backbone in them that they could be of some help. We were disappointed. I take the GOP, national and state, behavior during this election as a great betrayal. No longer will I make excuses for them as merely dim, incompetent, or weak willed, but actively working to sell my grandchildren into bondage.

    My "brand" loyalty was never that great. The GOP, while more than happy to send us to fight their hobby wars, has never expressed anything other than contempt for Southerners. I will feel no remorse.
    Tom S.

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    1. Not to put too fine a point on it: will I sell my grandchildren into slavery for peace in my old age? Hell no! If all is to go to wreck and ruin let it do it now, so my grandchildren can build rather than merely serve.
      Tom S.

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  11. As my family just recently moved from Southern Cal to NC, I appreciate the sentiment but it hasn't worked well handing even just a state to the democrats. They don't like to let go of power and they are shockingly creative at inflicting pain upon its residents. I wish we could punish the Romneys et al of the GOP, but at the end of the day I'll take the W every time.

    As local politics have become so relevant during this year, I think the city, county and state Republicans need the microscope almost even more. They're the national politicians of tomorrow and we can have an affect on them much more easily today.

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    1. It's not a matter of punishing, it's a matter of no longer enabling. Would the frog prefer to boil slowly or quickly, because both Democrats and Republicans are agreed that the frog is to be boiled.
      Tom S.

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  12. My thoughts are... Mitt Romney, Lisa Murkowski, Susan Collins, and other Never Trumpers are your only honest Repubs. The rest are still playing the political theater of the long con. If a single GOP politician was honest they would be breathing fire at their own party leadership. Because PUCK decorum!

    I've watched this game for too long, the GOP will need both sides to keep their globalist base and rope Trump's supporters back into a lull.

    This isn't about a party winning or loosing, it's ALWAYS tail we loose, heads they win. It's about keeping americans believing in the psychology of "choice" to keep a rebellion down.

    For context, the teaparty was destroyed by right and left working together.

    They are 1000 paces ahead of keeping patriot's rifles in their cases, that is all this is about.

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