Saturday, November 14, 2020

Update Re Scytl

 At 11:28 PM last night commenter American Cardigan wrote:

AmericanCardigan November 13, 2020 at 11:28 PM

Scytl website updated with "Learn More" disclaimer refuting it all. Reads like Adam Schaffer legal ease.

This morning I tried to verify that "disclaimer" but all Scytl sites were down. TGP has now posted the text of the Scytl statement, which I'll reproduce in full. Scytl sites remain inaccessible. Note that the statements are carefully crafted and would need to be intensively examined for their precise meaning. Some of the statements are directly relevant to the reported "raid", others are not. For example, even with regard to the "raid," the statement denies that anything was seized from Scytl by the US army--which doesn't preclude seizure by other agencies of the US government. Take it for what it's worth, as also the reports of the "raid". Nothing confirmed:

Fact Checking Regarding US Elections: Debunking Fake News

November 13, 2020 | General

Following several erroneous statements that have been published in digital and social media, Scytl would like to clarify the following:

The technologies implemented by Scytl in the US are both hosted and managed within the US, by a local subsidiary, SOE Software, based in Tampa, Florida.

We do not tabulate, tally or count votes in the US

We do not provide voting machines in the US

We did not provide online voting to US jurisdictions for the US elections.

We do not have servers or offices in Frankfurt

The US army has not seized anything from Scytl in Barcelona, Frankfurt or anywhere else

We are not owned by George Soros and have never been connected to him

We are not tied to Smartmatic, SGO, Dominion or Indra

We have no ties with Russia either

The statement denying that Scytl has "servers or offices" in Frankfurt would seem to contradict accepted news reporting. Again, that statement is not a denial of servers or offices in Germany, near Frankfurt. In that regard there is a reference in Wikipedia:

2019 center in Frankfurt

During the nine-month period preceding June 2019, Scytl established a center in Frankfurt, Germany for emergency back-up.

From which it appears that Scytl's statement must be viewed as very carefully worded. I would expect that backup servers would be exactly what investigators would want to get their hands on.

We await developments. If any.



  1. Mark-- I have appreciated your insight into many areas over the last months. Sidney Powell made some compelling comments yesterday on Lou Dobbs' show:
    Are you in a position to comment on her statements? If there is such evidence of wrongdoing what are the hurdles to getting it out in such a way that it could change the election outcome?

    1. There are commenters here with the expertise or knowledge re forensic examination of data that I lack. My belief is that, since the analysis is largely done with software, this could be done in a timely manner. The key is to get one's hands on the evidence, and to do that you need probable cause.

  2. Typo. Adam Schiff. Yes this is exactly what I saw.

    1. Ha ha. Maybe autocorrect is also controlled by the Frankfurt server. It doth make morons of us all.


    2. I can't wait for autothink. Then nobody will need to actually know anything. Such bliss.

  3. I am not saying anything other than the obvious. We need official confirmation of the many rumors swirling about on the internet. I have no doubt that if we get this from, say, AG Barr and or SoS Pompeo, releasing news of information on Server housed in Germany, we shall prevail. Millions will demand as much. But until then, it is well to keep in mind that the left is flooding the internet with fake voter fraud rumors to discredit the as yet unverified but (I hope) true internet posts. In the meantime, The American Thinker posts a timely warning about “false hoaxes.”

    So, we wait.

  4. Were this to have happened in Germany, I'd expect the media there would report it.

    1. There is report on this in "underground media" in Germany (the type of websites that are offivially stereotyped as "conspiracy theorists". They report about the same tweets and rumours, I have not seen any more information available there than we have here.
      The MSM in Germany are fully "woke" and liberal as CNN, they would not report on this.

  5. So, they absolutely edited the Wikipedia page to remove the info about their emergency backup in Frankfurt, but if you search the phrase "During the nine-month period preceding June 2019, Scytl established a center in Frankfurt, Germany for emergency back-up." It does show up at the very top of the results as the wiki link with that info, except when you click it there is nothing. But archived versions reveal there is in fact the emergency backup in Frankfurt. Here is an archived link , it definitely is there in that one. Also, here is an official pdf from scytl's own website that clearly mentions it . They can deny/edit that they were or weren't raided all they want, but the past will always creep back up.

    1. Not a prob, by the way, sorry sorry if what I typed has some huge spaces, I dont know what I did there lol, but the info is what's important.

    2. Did you notice how the archived wikipedia entry discusses Scytl’s activity in the United States?

      “In the 2016 United States elections, Scytl's technologies were used statewide in 12 U.S. states, and in another 980 local jurisdictions in 28 states.They have been an election rigged by the Democratic party.”

      Oops. How’d that last (ungrammatical) sentence get in there? Of course it’s gone from the new and improved entry.

    3. I didnt even notice that part because I was focusing on the Frankfurt part, until you pointed it out, but damn, lol. It's hard to know what's real on wiki or not since people can pretty much edit anything, the pdf verifies the Frankfurt part, but the 2016 part is true either way, just funny how little truths sneakily pop up like that, always some little bread crumbs left behind.

  6. >Rudy W. Giuliani
    · 5h
    Did you know a foreign company,DOMINION,was counting our vote in Michigan, Arizona and Georgia and other states.

    But it was a front for SMARTMATIC, who was really doing the computing.

    Look up SMARTMATIC and tweet me what you think?

    It will all come out.


    >The US Smartmatic voting system wasn’t designed in America but in communist Venezuela, first used by Dictator Hugo Chavez, sponsored by his government as co-owner, educated by Bitza state software. A mere 16 years ago. Designed and first deployed to defraud a recall election, claims CIA. Today, Venezuela is a failed nation whose people are trapped in a living hell, dying without food or medicine. This might not have happened if Smartmatic had not willfully cooperated in election fraud. Smartmatic was then deployed to America where it is now in the midst of apparent massive election fraud. So, given the machine’s origins, purpose, record, and abilities – What are the chances that Smartmatic did not help throw this election?

    1. Don't know because we live in a post-truth world. Just the way the Left and their presstitutes like it.

  7. “We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,” Biden said.

    It was a slip, not a gaf.

  8. The word Scytl is an old English word meaning spear, missile or projectile (like a spear to the heart of our republic?) Reminds me of Ahab’s revengeful obsession with the great white whale that eventually pulled Ahab out to sea.

  9. and I see in RealClearPolitics Adam Shiff article providing DeepState "Air Cover" again courtesy of USA Today.

  10. I have cut the cord long ago. I live the life of assaults, unattended deaths (my very first call as a cop), drugs, noise complaints, speeding complaints, murders, thefts, burglaries, etc. I do not need that kind of porn to experience it.

    There is another kind of porn I call Corvid porn. I was at an in-laws house recently that had CBS news on. Vast majority was Covid with a smattering of how Biden is president elect.

    And, I fear, we are in another porn, Trump will win/ prevail.

    I walked around Denton, Texas getting signatures so Ross Perot could be a choice for Texans.

    Trump is doing exactly what I want, fighting to the last breath. That is a good thing.

    Expecting him to pull the rabbit out of the hat is bot.

    What I think is happening is Trump is reinforcing his base, me, us, for a later run. A run that may be futile because we are in a post constitutional America, but a run that must happen.

    Is it civil war now or later? It will happen no matter what, even if Trump wins now or later.

  11. I am no defeatist ...

    I am pissed, flat out angry, but see no way out ... other than ...

    Civil war now or later. My take is later because we still have a slim to chance to prevent it.

    1. "Of one thing I am certain: there will be a war. The left cannot be reasoned with. Their irrationality borders on clinical insanity. Their notion of 'compromise' is total acquiescence to their every demand. They are devoid of ethics and integrity, and engage in deceit and fraud instinctively and as naturally as others breathe. It's not possible to peacefully coexist with such people. There will be war because eventually they will make it so there is no alternative."

  12. We are in a civil war, it's just not a shooting war yet. Red states vs Blue states. Where has all the "resistance" to Trump taken place? First sign was immigration and sanctuary cities, it's long been documented the effort of the left to capture secretary of state and state AG offices, education policy , policy around religious freedom, taxation. More recently draconian policies to "address" Covid, and now the presidential election. Stark differences between states. And there will be stark differences regardless if the outcome of the presidential election. But one thing seems to be coming into focus. The left made it's incursion into the presidential election by way of influence in certain states. The only viable counter to the left's corrupt play seems to be invalidating the vote count in contested states and throwing it to the state legislatures or throwing the whole election to the US House of Representatives for a vote there. If the first civil war had been fought without shooting, one could envision similar maneuvering. When where and why does it become a shooting war? It seems we still have a bit of sorting out sides to do, in which case we're all going to have to consult his conscience and pick a side. As you say Texas, if not now certainly later.

  13. Over at The American Thinker, Clarice Feldman discusses a little (very little) known EO on electoral fraud signed by Trump in 2018. She also reviews bipartisan skepticism regarding Dominion and points out the shady dealings of Ga. Republican Governor Kemp. She mentions Scytl and questions whether Americans could have seized a server in Germany. In one internet post I read last night, the writer claims that the computer was housed at a CIA site in Germany, which puts that objection in a different light. I don’t know what is fact and what is fiction, so I am just putting this out there for your readers’ consideration, Mark.


    1. I haven't had a chance to read Clarice--just got home. The short answer is, yes, there are ways for the US to take custody of property in Germany if that property contains evidence of a crime that occurred in the US. That can only be done with DoJ pushing it. It could be done for intel purposes, too, but not for exposing fraud.

      The point about GA, I've read about some of the GOP shenanigans and it's extremely disturbing.

      Also re the CIA. That makes sense if you consider that the US has engaged in election fraud internationally. And may shed light on Haspel's visit to McConnell. Must be LOTS going on behind the scenes.

  14. From Clarice Feldman this morning:

    Dominion’s lobbyist, who pitched the $100 million dollar purchase of these machines, was Georgia Governor Brian Kemp’s former chief of staff. Georgia’s secretary of State Brad Raffensberger took campaign cash from the wife of a CEO of Dominion’s partner.

    On Parler, Lin Wood posted:

    Georgia Governor Brian Kemp & Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger should be investigated by the GA Bureau of Investigation. Maybe they should resign.

    We The People deserve honest public officials.

    Georgia’s purchase was also questioned by Oregon’s Democratic senator Ron Wyden: a speech at an election security conference in Washington DC, said that the voting machine lobby “literally thinks they are just above the law, they are accountable to nobody, [and] they have been able to hotwire the political system in certain parts of the country like we’ve seen in Georgia”.

    Wyden was referring to the fact that Brian Kemp, who is now Georgia’s governor after overseeing his own election while secretary of state, appointed an ES&S lobbyist as his deputy chief of staff. Meanwhile, the state is in the process of purchasing more than $150m in new voting machines.

    “My view is that the maintenance of our constitutional rights should not depend on the sketchy ethics of these well-connected corporations that stonewall Congress, lie to public officials and have repeatedly gouged taxpayers.

    Dominion reportedly has Venezuelan and Cuban investment and utilizes parts from China. Its software is widely used across the U.S.

  15. More from Clarice:

    Well, Scytl used to be based in Spain, with offices in Frankfurt and Barcelona, but it went bankrupt and this October was purchased by an Irish company, Paragon.

    Scytl and Bytes

    Linn Wood Wood tweeted:


    Biden & his criminal cronies are not going to sleep well tonight. Well, Biden might because he probably forgot the name Scytl.

    His co-conspirators know name well. They also know the name Paragon, company which purchased Scytl in 10/20.

    Every will be revealed.


    Scytl provides electronic voting systems which have a bad record of vulnerability to electronic manipulation. Before declaring bankruptcy, it botched elections in 2018 in New South Wales, in Ecuador in 2014, in 2011 in Norway, and in 2015 in Switzerland before bankruptcy and a sale to Paragon last month.

    Had seen none of this before.

  16. More from Clarice:

    It’s hard to imagine Germany allowing U.S. troops to seize property in Frankfurt. (Of course, a covert operation is not unheard of.)

    In any event Scytl has categorically denied the Gohmert report. Most particularly they deny having offices in Frankfurt, or that the U.S. Army seized anything from Barcelona, Frankfurt, or anywhere else.

    Would seizing the Scytl computers be the only way to establish vote tally manipulation?

    I don’t think so. For one thing, Dominion stores its data on Amazon cloud, and federal law enforcement could get access to it. The Utah Data Center which, among other things, stores data relating to cybersecurity, can and does process, “all forms of communication, including the complete documents of private emails, cell phone calls, and Internet searches.”

    It could have picked up odd happenings between the overseas offices of the big electronic election services. All the ways the data could be accessed is, frankly, a topic beyond my ken.

  17. The roller coaster today is vertiginous.

    Watching Bartiromo this morning, I saw Giuliani and Powell repeat claims that the election was fatally corrupted. Giuliani seems focused on procedural irregularities, primarily in PA, such as excluding watchers from the ballot count. He weaves in claims of computer-based fraud and on twitter he has claimed that Dominion Voting Systems is one of the main bad actors. Sidney Powell seems more focused on establishing systemic computer fraud, perhaps enabled by a different company called Smartmatic. She pointed out that the Chairman of the Board of Smartmatic is a retired (Coast Guard) Admiral, former Obama Administration official and Atlantic Council member named Peter Neffenger, who happens to be a 'volunteer' member of the Biden 'transition team'. Hmmm.

    But its not clear what the connection is between Dominion and Smartmatic. Lost in the shuffle is the role of Scytl, if any, or for that matter, Paragon. There seems to be total silence on the question whether there was a raid in Germany. It does seem hard to comprehend why voting systems are open to the internet and not 'closed' systems.

    In the meantime, the New York Times has chimed in to reassert the absence of any fraud at all in the election. You can read the NYT spin for yourself, but it seems to me that the Times has no more evidence of the absence of election fraud than Giuliani and Powell currently have of actual, game changing, election reversing fraud.

    Isn't the common sense answer, as many are advocating (such as Congressman Jim Jordan this morning on Bartiromo) to let the process play out and see if Trump's lawyers can prove their claim.

    I was gratified to hear at the end of Maria's interview with Sidney Powell, that Powell acknowledged that she and Giuliani are in fact working together.

    1. "The common sense answer"

      That's what Jonathan Turley has been suggesting. For his trouble he was accused by another law prof of being the equivalent of a holocaust denier. Pretty damned close to Godwin's law territory!

      Dems, of course, are working feverishly to short circuit any common sense answers.

  18. @Mark

    PS and FWIW - I'm having lots of glitchy issues with Blogger/Blogspot this morning. It seems to be wanting to force me to post under my google account, which is tied to my bona fide email address, and not my anonymous 'Nom de Post'. Its not lost on me that Google controls Blogger/Blogspot. I may be paranoid, but these days, who knows?

    1. FYI, you posted your last one 3x. I deleted two of them. I haven't changed any settings.

    2. Yup. And Blogger only acknowledged the last attempt...

    3. "If you think people are out to get you, you're paranoid; unless people really are out to get you."
      Tom S.