Has Chris Wray held his finger up to test the political winds, and does he see a GOP Congress coming? Is he looking to ingratiate himself with those he sees as his future masters in Congress?
That could be one way to interpret the latest FBI leak, which totally undercuts DoJ's already struggling inquisition against January 6 Event participants. Via Red State:
According to four current and former law enforcement officials, the FBI has “found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result.” The FBI doesn’t believe that the riot was “centrally coordinated by far-right groups or prominent supporters of then-President Donald Trump, according to the sources, who have been either directly involved in or briefed regularly on the wide-ranging investigations.”
Obviously this is speculation. Nevertheless, this is not what a prosecutor wants to read in the news. What kind of witnesses will FBI agents make?
Further evidence of regime collapse?
IMO this is 100% about the FBI starting to cover its own tracks in the event, not some noble search for truth or justice.
ReplyDeleteI hate to be "that guy" that is so gun shy he cannot even accept positive developments, but if they are saying this now, then chances are the nefarious purposes are 3-4 steps ahead of our assumptions of what it means.
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Mark, do you think the FBI was involved with the bomber yesterday as per setting him up with fake explosives? Excuse my cynicism but it’s making the rounds on the net that they did.
ReplyDeleteI think if it was the FBI there would have least been a bomb.
DeleteCesar Sayco in Ft Lauderdale in 2018 didn’t actually send bombs that worked. FBI labeled him a Trump supporter. Claims were made the FBI supplied the material for the bombs
Deletehaha- Wray means that they reached the top of the 'conspiracy' and, lo and behold, it was awfully familiar...like same guys fomenting the MI conspiracy??
ReplyDeleteI had the same thought, actually, but thinking maybe they know what will come out in the AZ audit? The way I see it, is that calling the Jan 6 protesters "insurrectionists" only flies--to the extent it does at all--if you can continue to portray them as crackpots. If, however, their grievances prove to have a solid foundation, it becomes a lot harder to lock them up just for protesting.
ReplyDeleteThe truth of the "steal" should not matter since it is our absolute right to protest, even if absolutely wrong about the position we protest. But we see how the Jan 6 defendants have been treated due to a premature conclusion that they were "insurrectionists". That's why I think the FBI could be getting ahead of audit results. Even if the audit results only raise questions about the election rather than proving it was wrongly decided, that'd be enough to cast the Jan 6 protests in a new light.
Release the Political Prisoners Now and pay reparations to them.
ReplyDeleteOr is it more likely that the FBI's actiona are an effort to limit their liability and culpability with regards to their infiltration efforts within the various Patriot groups.
ReplyDeleteToday You know Who guesses that the aim here is, to forestall probes into the FBI's role before/ on that day, and quotes Greenwald's guesses to similar effect:
ReplyDelete"... Or it could be that they were using those operatives under their control to plot with, direct, and drive the attack — as they have done so many times in the past — and allowed it to happen out of either negligence or intent.”
Legit point, however there wouldn't be that aim or need if they weren't fearful of consequences. And those consequences only begin to happen for real in late 2022. There's so much else going down that I don't think Jan 6 will get serious until later.
Delete"those consequences only begin to happen for real in late 2022."
DeleteYou mean, specifically for the FBI, or more for the regime generally?
For the FBI specifically. Wray is only concerned for himself. The regime can fend for itself.
DeleteMark, I do not follow this train of thought that he fears a republican congress.... he had one at multiple times he was "testifying" and it was a neutered and meaningless exercise that he openly scoffed at and refused to cooperate with.
DeleteWhy would it be different this time?
-Bee
That was then, this is now. Different dynamics. Trump is no longer in the WH, and the anger over a stolen election will trump anything that the Russia Hoax caused. Pressure on GOPers to do something will be higher and Wray will be a much more conspicuous target--no Barr or anyone else on his side.
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DeleteI'm with you. I see no reason for Wray to fear another GOP Keystone Kongress. I'm going with this Friday News Dump being an effort to quietly euthanize scrutiny of the FBI's 1/6 involvement. Wray has demonstrated impressively strong T-, C-, and Abs immunity to congressional demand letters, subpoenas, criminal referrals, and 'harsh questioning' by GOP bafflegab pols. In fact, please recall that Wray even withstood volley after volley of strongly-worded tweets from his boss's boss. If anybody has any evidence to suggest that Wray is afraid of what is certain to be yet another ineffectual GOP Congress of Enuchs, I'd love to see it adduced.
If Wray has nothing to fear, then why would he bother euthanizing scrutiny--which, btw, isn't happening anywhere except on conservative blogs? By NOT euthanizing scrutiny he insures continued support from Dems, who really would go after him for sure if he crossed them.
DeleteBy NOT euthanizing scrutiny he insures continued support from Dems, whereas by euthanizing scrutiny, he risks losing that support?
DeleteYes. I'm suggesting that he sees change in the political environment coming, and he wants to get our ahead of that.
DeleteBecause he doesn't have the goods? Because even with support of the Dems, the courts are beginning to balk? I suppose a case could be made that Wray is indemnifying himself by throwing a bone to the (exceedingly few) GOP politicians who have said ANYTHING about the fate of the 1/6 prisoners.
DeleteNobody on the left has much to lose by letting this all evaporate. Eventually even the raging TDS precincts will realize that it does them no good to blame the FBI/DoJ if the evidence cannot be produced to make the cases. This will just be like the Mueller report was to Russia-collusion, that is, proof that they were all spectacularly wrong and destroyed lives and reputations for a ridiculous fantasy. Some on the right will claim vindication but the propaganda damage has already been done. Even a substantial number of GOP pols have either equivocated or even outright signed on to the insurrection gaslighting. As with Trump-Russia collusion, the left will continue to believe in the insurrection story even as they move on to the next target.
It's not for the FBI to decide whether they have the goods or not--that's for DoJ to decide. By leaking in this way they're undercutting DoJ.
DeleteNone of us knows the future, and neither does Wray. Our national politics are moving precipitously, and it makes sense for him to attempt to find some ground that he can defend no matter how things turn out.
DeleteIf he admitted that the Oath Keepers are an FBI initiative, then I would believe he was truly afraid of Republicans.
Wonder if Wray is “positioning” the FBI; seems the DS isn’t happy with Bi Den for making them all look like the idiots they are. FBI’s been flubbing/ignoring stuff for years, just like “Intel Agency” failures are legendary: 300,000+ Chinese troops in Korea (Nov 1950), failure with French in Indo-China 1954, failure later in Vietnam, failure to see build up leading to Tet Offensive (Jan’68), failure to see Soviet collapse in ‘89, failure on Iraq WMD, failure to find Bin Laden for years, failure to see/admit Pakistan involvement/support of Taliban et al, failure to see implosion of Afghan military…
ReplyDeleteAnd those are just the highlights. The FBI ignores a Eric Swallowswell - high possibility of his compromised position vis-a-vis China - ignores a Chinese agent driving for a Democrat Senator for 20yrs, ignores Hunter Biden’s laptop, shoots innocent people (Ruby Ridge/Waco), selectively persecutes on a political basis (Roger Stone et al), Whitey Bulger…etc.
Wray see some handwriting on the wall?
Boarwild
Wray sees something major risk that he is vaccinating the fbi against.
ReplyDeleteGuesses:
1. - Gop Congress majority is assured. 18 months away, and historically has been toothless.
2.- believes Proof of fbi involvement in Jan 6 will vine out soon. Or worries about what defense attorneys will show fbi aka Whitmer type kidnapping scenarios.
3. - worry that “insurrection” narrative is encountering judicial push back, and requests of data from defense attorneys.
4. - worry over his fbi is being perceived as jack booted thugs by Most Trump supporters.
5. - worry Biden Administration is crashing and burning. And he wants to escape the explosion.
6. - Building political capital to fight the Durham report showing how biased and corrupt the fbi is.
My guess is a combination of all of the above.
#4 and #5 stand out to me in a more general sense. other play into those.
DeleteRamifications boys and girls, ramifications. We're all in this together (sic). Mark A
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