Last night an article came out in the WaPo, presumably to complement the damaging admissions that CDC Director Rochelle Walensky has made regarding the high viral loads that asymptomatic vaxxed persons are carrying--and presumably spreading. My impression last night hasn't been changed by anything I've seen this morning: this is damage control. For what it's worth, here's a link--and note the emphasis on "messaging" rather than on, say, "getting the data out":
‘The war has changed’: Internal CDC document urges new messaging, warns delta infections likely more severe
The internal presentation shows that the agency thinks it is struggling to communicate on vaccine efficacy amid increased breakthrough infections
Note, too, that the key assertion in the messaging--that the Dread Delta is "likely more severe"--is ... likely not true, except in defined demographics. The real story that CDC doesn't want released is that these problems were likely caused by this ill considered gene therapy experiment. More on both points below, but issuing administrative diktats ordering people to participate in a medical experiment, but without the backing of scientific data, is in itself a form of messaging that speaks volumes.
Robert Malone has offered a series of tweets this morning that dissect the CDC narrative that's being peddled via the Bezos WaPo. I've taken the liberty of reformatting these tweets a bit for readability--including correcting some typos:
Key quote from the CDC slide deck:"Risk of reinfection with Delta may be higher [aOR 1.46 (CI 1.03-2.05)] compared to Alpha variant, but only if prior infection ≥180 days earlier"
That suggests waning protection from natural infection at 180 days, and is another ADE breadcrumb
Recall that ADE--Antibody Dependent Enhancement--is a vaccinologist's worst nightmare. An 'enhanced' virus is a more dangerous virus, and ADE has been the major pitfall for ALL previous attempts at a coronavirus vaccine. Which is why Sucharit Bhakdi and others have repeatedly stated that coronaviruses are "poor vaccine candidates." Not all viruses are equally susceptible to control through the arsenal of vaccines. A higher risk of reinfection through later variants like Delta is a key signal or confirmation that ADE is in process.
"vaccinated individuals infected with delta may be able to transmit the virus as easily as those who are unvaccinated. Vaccinated people infected with delta have measurable viral loads similar to those who are unvaccinated and infected with the variant." - WaPo
But this business about viral loads of vaxxed persons being "similar to" the viral loads of unvaxxed persons is the line Fauci was peddling the other day--based on inadequate nasal titers, rather than reliable blood titers of viral load. While "similar to" is a relative term, the real situation is likely to be the one that Rochelle Walensky shared with the NYT--which suggests much higher viral loads among the vaxxed:
vaccinated people infected with the Delta variant carry tremendous amounts of the virus in the nose and throat
Continuing with Malone:
The Noble Lie:
"The presentation highlights the daunting task the CDC faces. It must continue to emphasize the proven efficacy of the vaccines at preventing severe illness and death while acknowledging milder breakthrough infections may not be so rare after all and that vaccinated individuals are transmitting the virus. The agency must move the goal posts of success in full public view."
“You don’t, when you’re a public health official, want to be saying, ‘Trust us, we know, we can’t tell you how,’” Jamieson said. “The scientific norm suggests that when you make a statement based on science, you show the science. …"
And the second mistake is they do not appear to be candid about the extent to which breakthroughs are yielding hospitalizations.”
This appears to be a reference to the Pfizer study that Malone referenced yesterday, and which he says dropped some patients from the study. IOW, Malone suspects that hospitalization rates among the 'breakthrough' cases are higher than are being reported and that the data is being, um, jiggered. That, in turn, suggests that hospitalizations of breakthrough cases are not so rare after all, and therefore not so 'mild' as the CDC wants us to believe. But, as Jamieson says: How can we know if they don't provide the data in a trustworthy form? Perhaps the default response should be skepticism.
I take no pleasure in observing that this sounds a lot like vindication of much of what I have been saying. And by the way, Reuters, the SARS-CoV-2 Spike protein is a toxin...
Another of Malone's cryptic tweets. He's ticked off at Reuters' "fact checking" of him. What he's communicating substantively is that, maybe using gene therapy to induce the human body to produce a known toxin that is foreign to the body isn't such a good idea. And never was.
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Have you read Denninger this morning?
Fauci *ADMITS* I Was Right In Spring of 2020
"This was expected by anyone who has ever studied anything about viral disease and the use of non-sterilizing immunizations when infections are active in a community. We have known this all the way back to Polio and is why we insisted on a sterilizing vaccine (OPV) following the inactivated injected vaccine (IPV) in the United States until 20 years after we were declared polio-free.
In addition it is exactly what is expected if a non-sterilizing vaccine produces both binding and neutralizing antibodies and we know, scientifically, that all the existing jabs do exactly that. When levels wane you still have binding antibodies and when the neutralizing level falls below the threshold to protect you now have an enhancement of the disease rather than protection. A person who was never infected and not vaccinated does not have the binding antibodies and thus, while at risk, doesn't get the enhancement. Now we have real-world evidence that in fact the jabs produce risk as immunity wanes and that said risk may exceed, on a personal level, what someone has who never been infected or vaccinated is exposed to."
On the prior infection folks having a higher risk of being reinfected, the odds ratio is tiny: 1.46. Even if we take the upper number, that still is only a tiny increase in absolute risk. If you take the recent Israel announcement that only 0.002% of the prior infected got a breakthrough infection (and this is probably including folks who are asymptomatic), that means 1 out of 50,000. This likely also includes folks who got Delta, but even if it didn’t, the risk would increase to 1 out of 25,000. For comparison, your risk of dying in a car crash in a year is roughly 1 in 15,000-20,000.ReplyDelete
I don't understand what the purpose of this "leak" was. It seems like the CDC is shooting itself in the foot on their credibility. And especially on the need for mandatory vaccinations.ReplyDelete
I think reality is starting to set in at the CDC- the vaccines are not going to extinguish COVID no matter how many people get the vaccine- the virus is endemic and nothing is going to change that- this is something I have been writing for 16 months now- the virus isn't going to disappear. Politically is how these people think- they don't think like scientists.
Where do we go from here? I personally don't think the Delta variant is to be feared. I have been watching the UK in this latest wave of Delta, and the CFR looks like it is going to be about 1/10 of what it was for the Fall/Winter wave.
In any case, all these waves seem to take 6 weeks to hit the peak of new cases from the trough on the left hand side, and then another 6 weeks to return to the trough level. The UK passed the peak just a few days ago- deaths are still rising, but will likely not breach even 150/day- that peak should come sometime next weekend or so. The US is about 4-5 weeks behind the British, so I expect the peak to be about August 20th or so. Deaths are creeping up a little in the US, but seem very similar to what the British have found in this wave.
So, what is the reason for the lower fatality in this wave? The vaccine may well be helping keep the most vulnerable alive, but I have a different theory altogether- I think the virus has killed most of the people who are vulnerable to being killed by it- the dry tinder is burned away. People over the age of 70 have either died from it already, or have recovered from the infection itself with a better form of sterilizing immunity, or they were never susceptible to the virus in the first place.
I am 55, and I decided in March not to take the vaccine. At that time I had a quick antibody test done at the local Kroger, and it was negative for COVID, but I have take no precautions against it- I have basically lived my life exactly as I did before, so I almost surely been exposed at either the grocery store or the gym which I attend ever day where almost no one masks in the last 15 months. I am not in the risk groups for death, and I increasingly feel better for having not taken these vaccines. The Novavax is the one I might take, but having worked in drug discovery, I basically don't trust anything they put out that hasn't been tested thoroughly in a Phase III trial and long term post market surveillance. I refuse to be part of this world wide Phase II study.
I have an open mind about the Dread Delta. It seems clear that the regime is freaking over the possibility that ADE has set in, OTOH, as you say, other countries that are highly vaxxed aren't showing signs of catastrophe. It's all above my pay grade, so I'll just have to keep tracking it.Delete
ADE worries me a little, but there is nothing that can be done about it other than to not vax anyone else under the age of 60 or so. I advocated a long time ago- back in late February or early March of 2020 that the best way to deal with COVID was to close the nursing homes down for a few months and let the virus rip through the rest of the population as quickly as possible. That still looks like the optimal policy, but it is too late to do this for all the people who have been vaccinated already. On balance, I think the vaccines are probably a benefit to people who are ill with other conditions or who are 70+ years old, and we have basically vaccinated all those people already who want the vaccine- my elderly mother has had both doses of the Pfizer vaccine with no ill effects.Delete
If ADE is a problem, it will start showing up in a couple of weeks, and definitely show up this Winter, again, if it is an issue.
And one other thing that Alex Berenson posted on last night has come out about the Pfizer vaccine- the two arms of the Phase III study show the vaccine has no benefit for lowering overall mortality. Now, the potential signal was always going to be weak- the study was always underpowered statistically (not nearly enough people in the higher age cohorts who were at most risk), but still you would have thought that you could at least see some signal where the placebo arm had a few more deaths from all causes. This is partly why I think the real change has been in the numbers of people vulnerable- just not as many as there were last year.Delete
I’m not sure if reality is settling into the Cdc.
My gut feeling, with no proof, is politics is driving this. This was a trial balloon by amping the fear up to 11, and it’s failed so far.
With the left, everything is political.
Why the push now?
Because the Biden Agenda is meeting more resistance. The Biden Administration is in danger of being perceived as incompetent, politicized, and corrupt. And huge worries over the midterms with the current trends.
Biden concern areas:
- Falling Biden favorability
- increased concern over inflation
- State voter fraud audits and tightening of voting processes
- Jan 6 insurrection narrative is becoming less credible
- FBI’s Whitmer fiasco
- perception of Border out of control
- States pushing back on mask / vaccine mandates
- Biden’s dementia is becoming more apparent
- Trump has not been silenced
If the Biden Administration and it’s allies can make people believe there is another emergency due to Delta, they feel their agenda has a higher chance of happening.