Monday, November 4, 2019

Smoking Gun Emails Re Biden/Ukraine Released

Nothing seems to be going the Dems' way:


  1. It definitely puts the stake through the assertion parroted by all the media that there was no corruption investigation of Burisma at the time. Burisma obviously thought they were being investigated- why else write the e-mail?

    1. Not only did they think there were being investigated, they thought they knew how to put a stop to it. They were right.

    2. Imagine if this were a GOPer scandal!

  2. Another instance of receiving flak means you're over the target. I've noticed Dems never say, "Look all you want, there's nothing there." It's always distraction with name-calling and counter-allegations--not an offer of full disclosure because there's nothing to hide.

    And despite Trump immediately releasing the transcript, Dems and media couldn't help their own fraught instincts to double-down.

  3. A Timeline Of Joe Biden's Intervention Against The Prosecutor General Of Ukraine, published today by the Moon of Alabama website.

    The website has been arguing that

    1) Burisma was owned by Mykola Zlochevsky

    2) Ukrainian prosecutor Viktor Shokin was investigating Zlochevsky for corruption

    3) Shokin began to seize some Zlochevsky properties on February 2, 2016

    4) Joe Biden compelled Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko to fire Shokin on February 12, 2016.

    1. Right. That would be enough to convict a conservative.

    2. I have been studying the timeline.

      My understanding is that General-Prosecutor Victor Shokin was being pressured -- mostly by the USA -- to prosecute corruption more effectively.

      In response to such pressure, Shokin initiated an investigation of Mykola Zlochevsky on October 17, 2015. It seems that Britain had established an investigation of Zlochevsky in 2014, had suspended that investigation on January 21, 2015, but then resumed that investigation in October 2015. Shokin joined that British investigation on October 17, 2015.

      It seems further that the USA eventually took unknown actions to prevent that joint British-Ukrainian investigation of Zlochevsky.

      On December 7-8, 2015, Vice President Biden indicated that a large US grant of aid money would be conditional. However, the conditions seem to be secret.

      In this situation, before the end of December 2015, General-Prosecutor Shokin transfered the Zlochevsky investigation to the so-called National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine (NABU), which essentially was a creature of the US Government.

      The situation seemed to remain quiet through the month of January 2016. On February 2, however, Shokin seized some of Zlochevsky's property, even though the NABU was supposed to be managing the Zlochevsky case.

      Sholin's seizure of Zlochevsky's property on February 2 sparked a US-Ukraine crisis.

      Although the property seizure occurred on February 2, it was not announced publicly until February 4. On that same day, Hunter Biden began following the Twitter account of US Deputy Secretary of State Tony Blinken, who managed Ukrainian affairs.

      On February 12, Vice President Joe Biden talked with Ukrainian President Poroshenko by telephone and ordered the firing of Shokin. The firing essentially happened later that same day.

    3. I like the way you put that: "Biden ... ordered the firing of Shokin." But none of the people who have a problem with Trump treating Ukraine the way he does (however you interpret that) had a problem with that.