Could spike protein in Moderna, Pfizer vaccines cause blood clots, brain inflammation, and heart attacks?Dr. J. Patrick Whelan, a pediatric rheumatologist, warned the FDA in December that mRNA vaccines could cause microvascular injury to the brain, heart, liver and kidneys in ways not assessed in safety trials.
In a more recent analysis published Feb. 4, 2021, in the New England Journal of Medicine, researchers from the National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke documented microvascular injury but no evidence of virus in the brains of patients who died from COVID-19. They reported, “In a convenience sample of patients who had died from COVID-19, multifocal microvascular injury was observed in the brain and olfactory bulbs by means of magnetic resonance microscopy, histopathological evaluation and immunohistochemical analysis of corresponding sections, without evidence of viral infection.”
If not viral infection, what else could be causing injury to distant organs associated with COVID-19?
The most likely culprit that has been identified is the COVID-19 spike protein released from the outer shell of the virus into circulation. Research cited below has documented that the viral spike protein is able to initiate a cascade of events that triggers damage to distant organs in COVID-19 patients.
Worryingly, several studies have found that the spike proteins alone have the capacity to cause widespread injury throughout the body, without any evidence of virus.
What makes this finding so disturbing is that the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines manufactured by Moderna and Pfizer and currently being administered throughout the U.S. program our cells to manufacture this same coronavirus spike protein as a way to trigger our bodies to produce antibodies to the virus.
A second study published in December, 2020, in Neurobiology of Disease reported that the SARS-CoV-2 spike proteins showed a direct negative impact on endothelial cells and provide “plausible explanations” for the neurological consequences observed in patients with COVID-19.
... They concluded that ACE2+ endothelial damage is a central part of SARS-CoV-2 pathology and may be induced by the spike protein alone. Injection of the full-length S1 spike subunit in the tail vein of mice, as part of the same study, led to neurologic signs (increased thirst, stressed behavior).
Let’s now circle back to the concerns voiced by Whelan in his letter to the FDA [the letter was written before the official release of the 'vaccines']:
“I am concerned about the possibility that the new vaccines aimed at creating immunity against the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein have the potential to cause microvascular injury to the brain, heart, liver and kidneys in a way that does not currently appear to be assessed in safety trials of these potential drugs.”
Whelan was referring to the fact that mRNA vaccines work by incorporating the genetic blueprint for the key spike protein on the virus surface into a formula that — when injected into humans — instructs our own cells to make the spike protein.
In theory, the body then will make antibodies against the spike protein to protect against SARS-CoV-2 infection.
The problem with this scenario, as we saw above, is that the spike protein alone — which the mRNA vaccines instruct the body to make — has been implicated as a key cause of injury and death in COVID-19 infections.
Based on the research conducted to date, it is very likely that some recipients of the spike protein mRNA vaccines will experience the same symptoms and injuries associated with the virus.
Geert Vanden Bossche received his DVM from the University of Ghent, Belgium, and his PhD degree in Virology from the University of Hohenheim, Germany. He held adjunct faculty appointments at universities in Belgium and Germany. After his career in Academia, Geert joined several vaccine companies (GSK Biologicals, Novartis Vaccines, Solvay Biologicals) to serve various roles in vaccine R&D as well as in late vaccine development. Geert then moved on to join the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation’s Global Health Discovery team in Seattle (USA) as Senior Program Officer; he then worked with the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization (GAVI) in Geneva as Senior Ebola Program Manager. At GAVI he tracked efforts to develop an Ebola vaccine. He also represented GAVI in fora with other partners, including WHO, to review progress on the fight against Ebola and to build plans for global pandemic preparedness. Back in 2015, Geert scrutinized and questioned the safety of the Ebola vaccine that was used in ring vaccination trials conducted by WHO in Guinea. His critical scientific analysis and report on the data published by WHO in the Lancet in 2015 was sent to all international health and regulatory authorities involved in the Ebola vaccination program. After working for GAVI, Geert joined the German Center for Infection Research in Cologne as Head of the Vaccine Development Office. He is at present primarily serving as a Biotech/ Vaccine consultant while also conducting his own research on Natural Killer cell-based vaccines.
In summary, the concerns center around the notion that a combination of lockdowns and extreme selection pressure on the virus induced by the intense global mass vaccination program might diminish the number of cases, hospitalizations and deaths in the short-term, but ultimately, will induce the creation of more mutants of concern.This is the result of what Vanden Bossche calls ‘immune escape’ (i.e. incomplete sterilization of the virus by the human immune system, even following vaccine administration). This will in turn trigger vaccine companies to further refine vaccines that will add, not reduce, the selection pressure, so producing ever more transmissible and potentially deadly variants.The selection pressure will cause greater convergence in mutations that affect the critical spike protein of the virus that is responsible for breaking through the mucosal surfaces of our airways, the route used by the virus to enter the human body. The virus will effectively outsmart the highly specific antigen-based vaccines that are being used and tweaked, dependent on the circulating variants. All of this could lead to a hockey stick-like increase in serious and potentially lethal cases — in effect, an out-of-control pandemic.Not only that, it will be Western nations with high proportions of metabolically diseased, overweight or obese individuals with compromised immune systems that will be hit hardest.
[~1:06]My viewpoint has not changed at all. Stop, please, stop immediately this mass vaccination campaign!Second, based on the science that, I think, makes a lot of sense, we know that our young and HEALTHY people--could even be people seventy five years old, in perfect health--they do have good innate immunity. That has been clearly proven during the first wave. We haven't seen any kids or people in good health, even elderly people, doing exercise and not having overweight or diseases, these people didn't get ill. So, this is clearly--and there's more of evidence of this--that is thanks to their innate immunity. So, innate immunity is unbelievably precious. It is so precious, we need to conserve this. [His concern is that the vaccines will compromise "innate" immunity.]My point is, because it is the only way I can explain why people who are protected during the first wave--don't develop symptoms--all of a sudden during the second wave become ill. What we're seeing right now in hospitals are younger people--and I thought they were protected in the first wave! Why all of a sudden would they become vulnerable? The only explanation for me that makes sense is the competition with the antigen specific antibodies--the surge they have, the short lived surge [produced by the vaccines], but if during that period [of the surge] they become infected, reinfected, their innate immunity is suppressed, and that likelihood that that happens increases when you have an increasing amount of highly infectious [variants?] that are circulated.If that is really true, which I think it is, then in order to preserve this precious innate immunity that, by the way, is functional against ALL the variants, even if we have still 250 other variants coming up it's functional against all coronavirus. If we want to preserve this, we need to avoid suppression of the innate immunity by antigen specific antibodies [through the vaccines]. And this is the short lived surge I'm talking about, so I'm advocating for--I know it's available in US--a ... simple diagnosis fingerprint test. People could simply monitor whether they have antibodies. If they have antibodies, they know that after 4-6 weeks those antibodies will disappear ... these people can go out. I mean, they have the full fledged innate immunity, AND by going out they can TRAIN this immunity. Because remember--innate immunity has no immunological memory--it needs to be trained. So this would free up all of our youngsters and old people in good health who could monitor themselves. ... I think it's really worthwhile investigating into this.The third thing that goes with this, is for God's sake this is a unique opportunity for governments and political leaders to call up to their people to take good care of their health--their lifestyle. ... Stay healthy food, exercise. I would love to see the statistics of people who got Covid disease and did regular exercise and had no overweight, for example. These are only two criteria, there is many more. And we know ... the correlation between good health and innate immunity is very strong correlation.The fourth thing is we need to protect those people who can no longer rely on this innate immunity, especially given the fact that we have an increasing amount of new variants of course. And these are the people, I think it's sad to say, who have been naturally infected and have the specific antibodies but also more and more people who got vaccinated. We need to protect these people. That is absolutely important because we see already right now that antibodies become less and less functional against those new variants and my fear is that within the next days or weeks we will have full resistance even [of the virus against the vaccines]. When that happens, dysfunctional [?] antibodies, people can throw them in the bin. They're completely useless. It's even worse, they suppress their innate immunity. So they have nothing to rely upon, and that would be extremely sad.The good news is ... there is incredible progress with regard to early treatment of Covid. I mean, there are folks, they have been published in peer reviewed journals, who have kind of, ya, you could call it a cocktail of different medication, all of them are approved, safe, et cetera, that people can take and have been proven to reduce hospitalization and severe disease by 85%. Can you imagine? When I hear this, when I see this published, I think it should be by law, any medical doctor who diagnoses Covid 19 disease--or infection, even--should not let the patient go home and just say, ya, you know, you should just isolate and go in quarantine and wait and see. It should be law that these people are automatically provided with a first aid package.[1:12:39]
I just want to differentiate two terms we’ve been hearing a lot about during this pandemic:
- One is anti-vaxxers. And usually when that term is used, it’s often referring to people who tend to hold an extremely negative view of all vaccines, regardless of what the scientific data has to say about them.
- But I want to highlight that vaccine hesitancy is very, very different. And a lot of people who have the vaccine hesitancy are being made to feel very bad these days, right? It’s as though if they were simply educated enough about vaccines, then they would have no problem with these COVID-19 vaccines. But that’s not the case. That’s not the definition, certainly that I use. These are individuals instead who are unsure of their commitment to taking a vaccine. And it’s usually because of outstanding questions. So in other words, the onus is not on the individual. It’s not that the individual simply needs to be educated. We have, there’s lots of people who are very deep thinkers about this, doing their own research about the COVID-19 vaccines and coming up with very legitimate questions.
We’re in a unique situation with these vaccines. There are questions that are unanswered now that were never unanswered at this point for previous vaccines.
There was no way that we would reasonably have good, well-vetted COVID-19 vaccines available now and available within a year from the beginning of the pandemic.
But this is because these COVID-19 vaccines have reached the public rollout phase by, and I’ll say it in quotes, “cutting corners”. And by cutting corners, I’m not implying that people were skipping key steps, although honestly, there could be some potential questions around that.
BYRAM BRIDLE ➝ 00:15:18
But what I mean by this is when we were asked to comment previously on how long it takes these vaccines to be developed, that was based on the understanding that the roll out would follow the typical timeline, which is that companies would complete phase three clinical trials, and then they would conduct the analysis.
So in this case, none of us were expecting, I don’t think, that the vaccines would be rolled out very early on in the phase three clinical trials. So the phase three trials are not done. So in essence, what this means is the public rollout right now is an extension of the phase three clinical trial.
BYRAM BRIDLE ➝ 00:16:04
So those being vaccinated now are, whether they realize it or not, part of the phase three experiment, the part of a vaccination experiment and the companies have openly acknowledged this in their reports to the regulatory agencies, because, for example, there’s a minimum period of time for which they have to track things like the safety of the vaccine.
According to Bridle, the results of the experiment won't be known for at least two years. Reread that.
BYRAM BRIDLE ➝ 00:17:02
Okay. So this is important to keep in mind. So as a consequence, these have been approved in a remarkable time, but that alone has raised some legitimate questions that are unique to these coronavirus vaccines.
And also I want to highlight that the nature of the virus itself – and I’ll get into this in a little bit – and as well, some very perplexing decisions about the rollout are raising additional questions that I would consider quite legitimate.
And what I mean by that is after somebody has been vaccinated, there are hundreds, probably thousands of other variables that occur in their day-to-day life that could have contributed to the problem. So it’s very difficult. So the only way we can really determine if it’s related to the vaccine often is just is with a large body of data that allows you to generate a very strong correlation. Okay.
But what I think what’s obvious here regardless is if these vaccines over time were to accrue a track record of causing too many severe, overly severe unpredicted side effects, this could potentially be cause for withdrawal of a vaccine.
So this was the confirmation wasn’t done. And this was only revealed in a summary report that was issued later by the United States food and drug administration, their health regulatory agency.
Now it’s interesting as a re-analysis with these new data taken into account was actually performed by the associate editor of the British Medical Journal. Now just called the BMJ. Alright. I do want to point out this is a non peer reviewed opinion letter. Okay.
But their new estimate taking into account that these unconfirmed cases actually predicts that the effectiveness could be as low as 19 to 29%, which is a remarkable difference.
But again, I want to highlight this can neither be confirmed or refuted until raw data are released to the scientific community. However, I was intrigued by this because this, this letter was published in mid January and the FDA held their meeting December 10th in 2020.
One final thing. I am very concerned about the emergence of SARS coronavirus two variants. Very concerned about this in the context of the vaccines.
Several of these have been identified. ...
... And this is to be expected. This is not unusual. We know the coronaviruses do this. Just so that you understand a little bit of the virology here, coronaviruses are designed to copy their genetic material in a way that inherently induces random mutations.
BYRAM BRIDLE ➝ 00:41:40
I’m a researcher. I focused my career on developing ways to maximize the probability of an outcome occurring. Usually I’m trying to maximize the potential for a vaccine to treat cancers or prevent infectious diseases.
But if you were to ask me as a scientist, how would I design an experiment that would maximize our chance of generating a highly immuno evasive variant of the SARS coronavirus two?
My answer would be essentially the exact way we’re rolling out these vaccines, precisely the way they’re rolling out these vaccines.
... There are three key things that I would want in my experimental design if I wanted to maximize the chance of generating a variant that can evade all of our current COVID-19 vaccines.
First of all, I would want the vaccine to be rolled out very slowly. Secondly, I would want that vaccine to be distributed in a piecemeal fashion. So just vaccinating a few people over here and a few people over there, disperse through the populations.
The next thing he gets into is very similar to Vanden Bossche. You have the "reservoir population" reinfecting the vaccinated population. But, whereas the reservoir population won't be at terrible risk--we already know that this virus is NOT a risk except to a small portion of the population--vaccinated people may end up being at high risk. The more you vax, the worse it could end up, as Vanden Bossche maintains. And this concern becomes acute if, as Vanden Bossche argues, the mutations will not really be so random, due to human generated pressures. And Bridle goes on to argue, similarly, that the narrow focus on the spike protein could end up being extremely problematic--meaning, dangerous.
BYRAM BRIDLE ➝ 00:43:47
All the while these people that have been vaccinated are surrounded by people who are not immune. And therefore conserve is what we call a reservoir population. This means this is the population in which the virus can spread.
All the time, the virus is going to be randomly generating these mutations. And that virus then is these people come into relatively close contact with the vaccinated individuals.
These random mutants can probe their potential to infect these vaccinated individuals.
And if they haven’t randomly acquired a mutation, it allows them to, infect that individual, then there’s going to be no infection, but they’re still going to circulate in that population of non-immune people. And it’s probably just a matter of time before there is a random mutation that does allow them to infect those individuals. And those viruses will be very problematic because they will have evaded the vaccine induced immunity.
BYRAM BRIDLE ➝ 00:44:41
Now, the third thing that I would do to ensure that that this could be maximized, this opportunity for the virus, a problematic variant to emerge, is I would make sure that the vaccine that I was using was conferring very narrowly focused immunity.
A previous speaker actually talked about this, right? When we naturally get infected, our immune system will respond to multiple components of the virus. But honestly, and you know I’m involved with the SARS coronavirus two vaccine development.
We have been short-sighted generally speaking as the scientific community. We knew these viruses from the get-go could mutate, but we decided to focus primarily on the spike protein, a single component.
Now, the reason why is, again, as I said, the spike protein is what allows the virus to get into our cells.
So the idea is if you could generate antibodies against the spike protein, and then it can’t bind to our cells and we can’t get infected.
But if you think about it, it’s much easier for a virus to fundamentally alter one protein in its structure. It’s going to be far more difficult for that virus to alter multiple components of its structure and maintain fitness.
And so that’s the other thing. So we’re talking narrowly focused immunity. So we are only asking this virus to change one protein in order to be able to evade these vaccines.
BYRAM BRIDLE ➝ 00:46:43
But if the rest of the world has these variants circulating, all those vaccinated individuals are gonna be susceptible to these variants that don’t care about that spike protein specific immunity anymore.
And and you may, as a population, have wanted much more broad immunity that’s conferred by natural natural acquisition of immunity, meaning you acquire the infection and clear it. So I’m very concerned about this.
And you might say, you know, is this, you know, am I completely wrong? No, we have evidence of this already. ...
BYRAM BRIDLE ➝ 00:47:43
And so, arguably, it’s just a matter of time before we will have variants that can bypass this narrow immunity conferred by all of these vaccines. I hope I’m wrong, but I really don’t think that I am.
... most people that have been infected with SARS-CoV-2 have indeed acquired natural immunity. ...
It can protect them from reinfection, ... natural immunity is very broad.
So if a new variant infects, chances are that the immunity you have is going to blunt that infection, whereas if you have that narrowly focused immunity conferred by the vaccine, and this variant has evaded that spike protein specific immunity, those people are going to be at much greater risk of more severe disease than those who acquire the new variant, but have this broad acting natural immunity.
And there’s even evidence, interestingly, that those with preexisting immunity against other coronaviruses, including the SARS coronavirus one from 17 years ago, and even from some of the cold causing coronaviruses, can cross protect some people.
So this is the sweet evidence that natural immunity can be pretty good. I actually kind of laugh when I see these publications coming out, because this is kind of immunology 101 that I teach all my students. This is what our immune systems are designed to do.
I honestly believe it’s just a matter of time before a variant will emerge, that can bypass the immunity conferred by the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines and others that we may come up with because they’re too narrowly focused.
So if that happens, there’s two potential solutions. You could simply go back and swap in the new spike protein from the new variant, but that’s not going to solve the long-term problem. Because then another variant will emerge. That will probably evade that one.
So to me, a better solution is we should have done this from the get-go, because again, we knew about this viral biology, right?
So arguably we should have been incorporating multiple targets into the vaccines, because again, it’s very difficult for a virus to make substantial changes to multiple proteins and still maintain its fitness.
Looks like you have an incomplete sentence, or a very complex one.ReplyDelete
Was "Similar problems are reported regarding Scientists are speculating"
supposed to be
"Similar problems are reported regarding *other organs*. Scientists are speculating...."
In any case, in light of all the attn. you give here to spike protein, you may want to check out Denninger days ago, at https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=242059 , about the dangers of tricking your cells to produce "spike protein", the J&J vaccine pullback, Budesonide, etc.
And, at https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=242106 , KD addsReplyDelete
"All of the "warp speed" EUA'd vaccines were constructed from a piece of the spike protein, not determined independently, but "given" by *China*.
It was simply assumed that, without the "N" part of the viral protein, it could not cause disease independently.
There was no evidence for or against this belief; it was simply assumed, without a single shred of experimental evidence at the time...
Our government bought into this blind faith, and even went so far as to issue *blanket* legal immunity to everyone involved, if it turned out to be wrong.
That was wildly stupid, and I said so at the time. There is in fact never a presumption, that introducing a foreign thing, that is not usually present into the body, will not cause disease; indeed even introducing an excessive amount of something *already* present frequently causes disease."
It seems there's a fair number of converging studies coming out.Delete
More of today's KD:ReplyDelete
"Moderna, I remind you, has been trying to produce therapies using messenger RNA for about a decade..., had never managed to get past safety problems in the past. This is not uncommon; most biotech approaches fail.
As an investor and trader, who has followed this segment of the market closely for a long time, and occasionally placed bets on some of them, I'm well-aware of many of the blow-ups, and occasional outright collapses; Theranos anyone? Or how about Dendreon, which allegedly had the answer to metastatic prostate cancer? They went bankrupt...."
There's another long article that I meant to include that gets into the Moderna history a bit. They've never brought any product to market, but when you get a big windfall of government money ...Delete
Where did you find the transcript of the talk by Dr Byram Bridle?ReplyDelete
I'm a Canadian RN (declined vaccine, allowed in at least Ontario where I work - partly because of serious documented allergies (I own 4 epipens - but also partly because of my physician's advice *and* hesitancy on my part) I have searched for this virologist's name, found a few talks, but not this specific one.
Any chance you could send the transcript?
Sorry, Heather, that was my mistake--I've corrected it. I believe he gave this talk in NZ. Full transcript:Delete
And, at https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/reasons-not-getting-covid-vaccine/?fbclid=IwAR3_H63RQPVc2wzZkbLRv017_Q0NXpWJox6lFQa2Fq4YcgC3uVWUJm5nNGA , certified nutrition coach Christian Elliot writes on "18 Reasons I Won’t Be Getting a COVID Vaccine", incl. on the history of US vaccines, attempts to make coronavirus vaccines, ‘data gaps’ submitted to FDA by vaccine makers, Under-reporting of adverse reactions and deaths, World’s leading vaccinologist is sounding the alarm (Vanden Bossche, w/ link to YouTube interview w/ the UK's Dr. Philip Mcmillan), etc.ReplyDelete
Yes, that's the article I forgot to include.Delete
I'm an RN in Canada. Where could I get a copy of the transcript of Dr Bridle's talk?
I got the moderna as did my parents and my father in law. It’s a lot less worry.ReplyDelete
There is a lot of questioning of why you need to mask with the negative and death rate so low in Los Angeles county. And keeping the schools closed,
And the denial of any immunity of having Covid.
And the jihad against hcq.
And someplace I read the majority of us news is very negative on Covid, lots of fear propaganda. I think over 90% of coverage was negative.
And even Maher is shouting BS.
Lots of anger building at the continued narrative of just a few more days to flatten the curve. Even Ted Cruz has joined the bandwagon of masks being virtue signaling if you have been vaccinated.
Well since I'm on the eve of my 2nd Moderna "chip" shot complete with Bill Gates talking in my left ear this article is very soothing.ReplyDelete
In addition, if there is a supposed "spike" protein in the vaccine perhaps I'll be able to cancel my Viagra supplements.
1. I am reasonable;
2. I am not going to get a Covid vaccine;
3. Therefore, VAX hesitancy is reasonable.
See how easy that is?
I’m on your team. Due to other considerations in my history, I have so far elected to not have the vaccine. Nothing I have read has convinced me that that election is a mistake. I consider it to be an informed choice.Delete
I am curious about Dr. Vanden Bossche’s DVM degree. In our country that is a doctor of veterinary medicine. Does DVM designate something else in Europe?
You're correct. In the video he states that his original background is in veterinary medicine. Of course, most efforts to develop vaccines are done with animals. In the case of coronaviruses, cats were used.Delete
Wasn’t ebola first found in apes? Covid-19 in bats? Haven’t had a chance to watch his video yet. Very interested in all of the material you have posted today, Mark.Delete
Green monkeys, I believe. I don't know what kind of virus Ebola is, but coronaviruses are quite prevalent among all sorts of mammals--such as cats. Why bats and pangolins are studied so much in that regard I'm not sure. Most of the earlier attempts at coronavirus vaccines were tested on cats, resulting in catastrophically high mortality rates. People in the field know all this, which is why Bridle and others were amazed at the emergency roll out without full testing.Delete
@Mark, Ebola is not respiratory related. Can't be spread ia cough or air born. It is a blood born virus and transferred that way from what I understand.Delete
Right. I was unclear in what I wrote. I was wondering more on how the Ebola virus behaves in the body.Delete
A lotta debating and risk for a 98% survivability rate. It's not something our family would do.ReplyDelete
To each their own in these things but like most any subject where personal choice is a factor. I will support and respect anyone's decision irregardless of the choice you/they make. Just please always extend the same courtesy to myself and others.
Because that's liberty...
Previously I posted a question: How many Chinese have been jabbed? I then suggested that only political prisoners were jabbed. Now the 4/17/2021 report by Natalie Winters in The National Pulse states that the Chinese are opening 100 more biolabs like the one in Wuhan. Bill Gates wants to reduce the population of the world. Why fight a conventional war if a biological one is more efficient? Shall I explicitly state what I am suggesting?ReplyDelete
BTW, for those who feel that President Trump let them down, my conviction is that he has ascertained correctly that he can do more for the American people, whom he loves, out of office.
Finally, again, thank you Mark for all you do--especially on following up on reports about the Wuhan War. BFH.
Outstanding piece, Mark. If my kids were younger than 21 it would be required reading.ReplyDelete
This explains perfectly why people like Dr. Fraudci issue such weasely, ambivalent messages about post jab life-- still have to wear masks, still distance, still limit group size, etc... They have no idea whether these experimental drugs will work or the side effects, so they hedge. Despicable.
-Death Warped Over
Ok, may as well plunge right in. Is it totally crazy to wonder whether the glaring weakness of these experimental vaccines is a feature and not a bug? In other words, knowing as we do the attitude of many in the ruling elite that humans are a blight on the planet, that old people are a burden and nuisance, and that continuing a pandemic induced crisis is necessary to global reset, is it too far fetched to think that these vaccines are intended to make people more vulnerable and force a mutation of the virus that will kill enough people to justify fresh lockdowns and government control?ReplyDelete
Great article Mark. Thank you very much for such a lucid explanation.ReplyDelete
Rule #4, Saul Alinsky's 'Rules for Radicals' - Make the enemy live by their own rulebook.ReplyDelete
I am not getting the Covid vaccines because... "my body, my choice." ;)