Pages

Friday, May 24, 2019

Ever Wonder How Americans Feel About Impeaching Trump?

Wonder no more!

Yesterday I asked, Does Trump want to be impeached? And I cited some savvy observers--Don Surber and Conrad Black--for the proposition that, yes, Trump really does want to be impeached. It just may be part of that conspiracy that Adam Schiff is so worried about.

The most recent Harvard-Harris poll (April) has an answer to our question, and helpfully links to an article at The Hill that summarizes the findings: Two-thirds of voters oppose impeachment proceedings.

Marc Thiessen comments on these findings today. It appears that Dems have only been listening to themselves talking to one another in their closed door conferences, and have learned nothing in the month or so since the poll was taken:


A Harvard-Harris poll finds that 65 percent of Americans say Congress should not begin impeachment proceedings against Trump. Sixty percent agree with Attorney General William Barr that “the facts and public actions of President Trump did not amount to obstruction of justice, especially since there was no underlying collusion.” ... 
... 
Yet, The Washington Post reports that “At least five members of (House Speaker Nancy) Pelosi’s leadership team – four of whom also sit on the House Judiciary Committee, with jurisdiction over impeachment – pressed Pelosi in a closed-door leadership meeting to allow the panel to start an (impeachment) inquiry.” Rep. John Yarmuth, D-Ky., chairman of the House Budget Committee, declared, “I think there is a growing understanding that an impeachment process is going to be inevitable.”
Talk about tone deaf. 
... In the Harvard-Harris poll, an overwhelming 80 percent of Americans say they want their “congressional representatives working more on infrastructure, health care, and immigration (than) investigations of President Trump.” ... 
... 
However, there is one area where Americans do want an investigation: They want to know how in the world their government wasted two years and tens of millions of their tax dollars chasing a Trump-Russia conspiracy that turned out not to exist. The Harvard-Harris poll also found that 55 percent of respondents say they think “bias against President Trump in the FBI played a role in launching investigations” against him, and 61 percent favor “appointing a special counsel to investigate potential abuses at the FBI.” ... 
Democrats have no credibility when they accuse the president of obstruction, because Americans know that Democrats misled them. For the past two years, voters listened with alarm as Democratic members of the House and Senate Intelligence and Judiciary committees implied that they had seen secret evidence showing Trump had colluded with Russia. They were told that Trump was a Russian agent and a traitor who had committed crimes of “a size and scope probably beyond Watergate.” None of it was true. And now the very people who lied to them are accusing Trump of obstructing their “impartial” investigations? Sorry, Americans aren’t buying it.

12 comments:

  1. The link below really sums it up. Clearly there are Dems who either want to stop Trump's progress or distract from their own failings and misdeeds, but I've come to the conclusion that some significant chunk of the resistance group have become mentally compromised by two years of TDS:

    https://thefederalist.com/2019/05/24/impeachment-democrats-heroin-addicts/


    ReplyDelete
  2. News accounts have Nadler saying Mueller wants to testify in private. I recommend flooding congress with demands that all testimony hence forth be public. We the People are sick of the secrecy. The People's House should conduct all business in the full light of day so that we, the owners of the House can be assured of the good behavior/judgment of our employees. "Democracy Dies in Darkness", where have I heard that before?

    This entire mess exists largely through the misconception that Government is too important for the commoners to be meddling so it is necessary, even desirable, to govern in secrecy. I grew up in a family that killed a hog almost every fall. I know exactly how sausage is made; and, while I may not be inclined to participate in the process today, if I am buying it I want to know that it is not being debased or contaminated. We are not mushrooms to be kept in the dark and fed digestively processed organic matter until harvested.

    If Mueller is volunteering information to a House Committee investigating potential official corruption then he is negotiating away the right to privacy for the protection of secrecy. By all means give him legitimate secrecy, convene a Grand Jury.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. While I'm not sure how private testimony would work, I do know that the GOP Reps would be present. The accounts I've seen say that Mueller doesn't want a "political circus" around his testimony--or something to that effect. Since only GJ material from his Dossier has been withheld, I don't see how anything could be classified so, in the circs, it seems to me that the GOP Reps could talk freely about his testimony. I doubt that would fit Mueller's true needs. And with declass gathering momentun ...

      More desperation.

      Delete
    2. If he were sincere and acting out of conscience, and had anything substantive to testify to, he would himself be demanding a GJ. He is massaging the media for a political purpose. More of the same-o-same-o. If these folks think the guillotine can't be "re-imagined" they are more stupid than even I give them credit for. The polls indicate the People are tired of this dog-and-pony show. What happens when they get sick and tired of it?

      Delete
    3. He's definitely not sincere, and I think he's afraid of being exposed publicly under hostile questioning.

      Delete
  3. Why does Bobby Boy not want to testify publicly? As I said a few days ago, he prescribed some harsh medicine for Papa D, Carter, and Gen Flynn. He and Weissmann need to open up and swallow their bitter medicine. What comes around, goes around.

    And as far as you citing the Bob Dylan lyrics "How does it feel?", I'll quote from another great song, "Coward of the County." "Sometimes you have to fight to be a man."

    It's true. I'm ready to go toe to toe with these contemptible rats. Not only am I tired of the Deep State, I'm tired of a legislator filming a woman silently praying at an abortion clinic and shouting "Shame on you!" I'm tired of white, Catholic boys being falsely accused of instigating harassment when they're the victims, I'm tired of being told I have "white privilege."

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Mueller is as corrupt as they come. And I agree with the rest.

      Delete
  4. As a putative Republican voting member of the dissident right, and living in NYC where Dems outnumber Reps by 7:1, the bubble that Dems live in is quite astonishing. They watch CNN, read the NYT and WaPo, and reinforce The Narrative when they talk with one another. Far from ever being challenged, i.e. the smug certainty of their brilliance and infallibility, they are never confronted regarding their thoughts, views, or perspective. This self-reflection is what Narcissus admired, it results in a lack of self-awareness/self-critique, and introspection

    The US has devolved to what I call team sport politics: my team wins, your team loses--and if I have to change the ground rules or move the goal post, so be it. By Any Mean Necessary.

    This leads to destructive cheerleading on both sides of the aisle simply based on partisan affinity, ignorant of facts and reality, absent of any skepticism. (And I think quite destructive to consensual government, and the assumptions held in common as to how it functions.)

    Right now, the cossetted Dems are fighting losing battles on two fronts, the mob clamoring for impeachment, and the obvious factual implications of the Russia hoax orchestrated from the highest levels of US law enforcement and intelligence services. The polling cited appears to bear out where the public stands on these two questions--and unfavorably so towards the Dems.

    We're a long way from 2020 election, but the Dems need to pay a big price for what they've put the country through, IMO. And again, the polls seem agree.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Very nicely put. And if that's the attitude of the Lib man in the street, imagine the attitude of DC insiders! And imagine the shock they felt when Trump was elected. The righteous reaction that this intruder must simply be expelled was a reaction that was so natural as to brook no second thoughts or doubts.

      Delete
    2. The Democrat Party appears ready to begin fighting a war on three fronts, by nominating Joe Biden to be the party's presidential nominee. Biden was not just the Vice-President in an administration that thought it prudent and expedient to investigate whether the presidential candidate from the opposing party was in fact the Manchurian Candidate; he was in the Oval Office on a wintry day in January '17 when the plotters fatefully decided against abandoning their connivance in the face of Trump's victory, instead choosing to blackmail the President-Elect and publicize the Steele Dossier, thus foisting their deranged machinations on the republic for the past two-and-a-half years.

      Delete