tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post630866148515189529..comments2023-10-19T21:48:56.560-05:00Comments on meaning in history: How To Watch Flynn/Sullivan Oral Arguments Livemark wauckhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08247066866195200890noreply@blogger.comBlogger52125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-44247081629227511362020-06-12T19:59:03.565-05:002020-06-12T19:59:03.565-05:00After listening to the arguments before the court ...After listening to the arguments before the court it became very obvious to me that none of the lawyers or the judges gave a damn about justice. <br /><br />No one stood on the high ground and said that the prosecutors were guilty of malpractice, lying to the court etc, that the initial defense team failed to properly defend their client, and that the DOJ review of the evidence in the case provedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-70608160225678215552020-06-12T12:36:53.183-05:002020-06-12T12:36:53.183-05:00For just a hint of the fire with which these folks...For just a hint of the fire with which these folks are playing, see words of a burnt-out cop, at https://www.lawofficer.com/america-we-are-leaving/ :<br /><br />"... This weekend I received death threats, for just doing my job. It would have been outrageous a decade ago, and made national news.<br />Now, it’s just a Monday.<br />There will be more threats, more accusations of racism, and aNanyMousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14452492302514671882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-62460890556498116902020-06-12T12:22:30.266-05:002020-06-12T12:22:30.266-05:00I disagree to this extent--I think Powell was quit...I disagree to this extent--I think Powell was quite good, made some really excellent points and argued well. I think it's a matter of style. Her very slow speech is difficult at times. Wall was very good, but I like more animation. That came through several times. His rebuttal points were often very well expressed.mark wauckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08247066866195200890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-16038465008109793652020-06-12T12:12:51.239-05:002020-06-12T12:12:51.239-05:00Wall was outstanding. Sidney Powell sounded fatig...Wall was outstanding. Sidney Powell sounded fatigued and Wilkins deliberately kept interrupting her and using up her time. He used far more than the two minutes they gave to her at the end.<br /><br />I liked the remark about Gleeson’s being an “intemperate amicus…” <br /><br />Wilkinson did not live up to her billing. But she really didn’t seem to have much to work with.Bebenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-27054148392617601842020-06-12T12:10:57.825-05:002020-06-12T12:10:57.825-05:00Typo: "noses into this."Typo: "noses into this."aNanyMousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14452492302514671882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-37976031519953846702020-06-12T12:09:34.942-05:002020-06-12T12:09:34.942-05:00OK, he referenced it, but he and Sidney needed to ...OK, he referenced it, but he and Sidney needed to hammer away at the scale of it, seeing as c. 1/2 of the country is outright certain that, contrary to Wilkins, there's *no chance* Sullivan will rule for Flynn.<br />I'll repeat, I must wager that Wilkins was puking out D.S. talking points.<br />Sidney and Wall needed to (implicitly) to rub the rest of the panel's noses into his.aNanyMousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14452492302514671882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-57841378078713374622020-06-12T11:34:56.968-05:002020-06-12T11:34:56.968-05:00Wall did explicitly reference damage to the judici...Wall did explicitly reference damage to the judiciary. And he's right. They'd become political pawns. They'd find themselves riding the tiger of PC opinion.mark wauckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08247066866195200890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-32867867962218840332020-06-12T11:33:51.649-05:002020-06-12T11:33:51.649-05:00Yes, and the hypothetical is inapt as to the facts...Yes, and the hypothetical is inapt as to the facts in the Flynn case. However, the reason he's doing it is to provide the MSM with scare headlines re Barr's DoJ being anti-black. Even scarier is where he would seem to want to go--judges sniffing out non-PC motives and using this quasi prosecutorial power to force appointment of a new prosecutor who will go after unfavored defendants. Thismark wauckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08247066866195200890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-79696599342030884002020-06-12T11:31:23.901-05:002020-06-12T11:31:23.901-05:00I'll do a quick and dirty post on that.I'll do a quick and dirty post on that.mark wauckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08247066866195200890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-6961648267126659892020-06-12T11:31:03.383-05:002020-06-12T11:31:03.383-05:00That would be Rao.That would be Rao.mark wauckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08247066866195200890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-60690167910203155332020-06-12T10:46:37.065-05:002020-06-12T10:46:37.065-05:00Typos corrected: "I've been expressing f...Typos corrected: "I've been expressing fears, that other forces (esp. the D.S.) would" aNanyMousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14452492302514671882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-79738585501048489802020-06-12T10:44:37.846-05:002020-06-12T10:44:37.846-05:00Since this hearing was scheduled, Ive been express...Since this hearing was scheduled, Ive been expressing fears, that other forces (esp.the D.S.) would skew these judges toward grasping at straws for Sullivan.<br />Now, it's clear enough, that Wilkins is doing that bidding, and that Henderson may also go that way.<br /><br />When addressing queries about "damage", I recall no hearing no stressing, from Powell or Wall, of the massive aNanyMousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14452492302514671882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-32739511870854824172020-06-12T10:22:16.482-05:002020-06-12T10:22:16.482-05:00Wilkins keeps using hypothetical involving the exc...Wilkins keeps using hypothetical involving the excessive use of force by a white officer against a “black victim”.<br /><br />At least the third time he’s used that. Bebenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-85413242442799166012020-06-12T10:19:36.374-05:002020-06-12T10:19:36.374-05:00He is a rather stupid and obtuse judge, the kind w...He is a rather stupid and obtuse judge, the kind we expect Obama to appoint.<br /><br /><br />Rob SAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11656932549374089899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-45851501767306925162020-06-12T10:19:20.829-05:002020-06-12T10:19:20.829-05:00So, for us laymen. What happens now?So, for us laymen. What happens now?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-26760362227826938442020-06-12T10:17:13.522-05:002020-06-12T10:17:13.522-05:00Wilkinson, Sullivan’s lawyer, is being dismantled ...Wilkinson, Sullivan’s lawyer, is being dismantled by one of the female judges...Bebenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-52959587891561940522020-06-12T10:15:40.802-05:002020-06-12T10:15:40.802-05:00As an aside, if somehow this proceeding results in...As an aside, if somehow this proceeding results in Judge Sullivan's conducting an inquiry into the Government's motives (behavior) here, the result will be extraordinarily damning to Van Grack, Weissmann, Mueller, etc. and extraordinarily embarrassing to the Government. There is far more misconduct by the Government here than it has admitted. <br /><br />Wall just made this point very Cassanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11255275730299959627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-72757327805587640722020-06-12T10:02:52.550-05:002020-06-12T10:02:52.550-05:00I can see that playing out. Wilkins plays race car...I can see that playing out. Wilkins plays race card again, red meat for Wilkinson. mark wauckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08247066866195200890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-85150406657955775992020-06-12T10:01:44.414-05:002020-06-12T10:01:44.414-05:00Wilkinson is slippery and continues to claim that ...Wilkinson is slippery and continues to claim that US is claiming Sullivan has no right to ask questions.mark wauckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08247066866195200890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-13540570632856263062020-06-12T09:58:05.752-05:002020-06-12T09:58:05.752-05:00Rao will vote for the mandamus. Wilkins will vote ...Rao will vote for the mandamus. Wilkins will vote against.<br /><br />Henderson seems to be tending towards letting Sullivan decide the motion to dismiss. She is being played, because Sullivan has no intention of ruling on the motion to dismiss until he has conducted a full blown trial into the Government's motives for moving to dismiss. <br /><br />Flynn will appeal. Cassanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11255275730299959627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-91842699979418245352020-06-12T09:56:58.534-05:002020-06-12T09:56:58.534-05:00Wilkinson continues to pretend that Sullivan might...Wilkinson continues to pretend that Sullivan might dismiss so let's wait and see. Rao is asking: Who does the amicus represent? W: Court wants an adversarial hearing, R: In a criminal case the gov is the adversary to the defendant. R keeps pushing, why does S need advice on the law from an outsider before ruling on a simple 48 motion.mark wauckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08247066866195200890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-69120379732378619432020-06-12T09:52:20.549-05:002020-06-12T09:52:20.549-05:00Wilkinson is arguing that all Sullivan wants to do...Wilkinson is arguing that all Sullivan wants to do is 'ask questions and hold a hearing.' Obvious lying that Powell exposed. mark wauckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08247066866195200890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-61757151604839562992020-06-12T09:49:56.088-05:002020-06-12T09:49:56.088-05:00Let me rephrase that issue: If in a criminal case ...Let me rephrase that issue: If in a criminal case parties have agreed to dismiss, what authority does a job have to even consider appointing, in effect, a new prosecutor? Because that can only be the effect here.mark wauckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08247066866195200890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-8024059635699965082020-06-12T09:48:44.211-05:002020-06-12T09:48:44.211-05:00Yup. Its all political. Since there is no longer a...Yup. Its all political. Since there is no longer any question whether Flynn committed a prosecutable offense in the first place. <br /><br />Lawfare. Cassanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11255275730299959627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-37012465179988174632020-06-12T09:46:53.663-05:002020-06-12T09:46:53.663-05:00Wall is very good. Here is Wilkins on Good Mornin...Wall is very good. Here is Wilkins on Good Morning, America three years ago:<br /><br />Judge Robert Wilkins' experience of "driving while black"<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYsl6AQBZn4Bebenoreply@blogger.com