tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post1018751052821063616..comments2023-10-19T21:48:56.560-05:00Comments on meaning in history: A Closer Look At The FBI's Carter Page Investigation (Part 1)mark wauckhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08247066866195200890noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-4535021065123018882020-03-06T18:44:35.557-06:002020-03-06T18:44:35.557-06:00Just to repeat--this is a time consuming process, ...Just to repeat--this is a time consuming process, because the prosecutors need to try to anticipate possible defenses and do the investigation to beat those defenses down. Lots of docs to review, lots of people to talk, lots of planning for those interviews, etc.mark wauckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08247066866195200890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-91696695412615597692020-03-06T18:42:49.549-06:002020-03-06T18:42:49.549-06:00I don't think you can call it "prima faci...I don't think you can call it "prima facie" evidence, but it is evidence. To build your case you'd want to look at how the procedures were followed normally, whether the non-standard practices were repeated--in this case there were four FISAs. Whether objections were raised. Rather than call it "corruption" I would call it evidence of a conspiracy to violate guidelinesmark wauckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08247066866195200890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-41223779291393277272020-03-06T18:20:30.370-06:002020-03-06T18:20:30.370-06:00OK, I'm beating a dead horse, so...
-->Yes...OK, I'm beating a dead horse, so...<br /><br />-->Yes it is non-standard practice, but the whole process was being run by a cabal at or near the top.<--<br /><br />Which should be prima facie evidence of corruption--if only because manipulation of the investigatory process by intervening bosses is unlikely to be challenged by underlings. In fact, it coerces underlings to comply with theForbeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08397667344368400622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-46736728012321086392020-03-06T13:13:10.588-06:002020-03-06T13:13:10.588-06:00Yes it is non-standard practice, but the whole pro...Yes it is non-standard practice, but the whole process was being run by a cabal at or near the top.mark wauckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08247066866195200890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-1713798421384927332020-03-06T12:49:52.191-06:002020-03-06T12:49:52.191-06:00Mark--Two points, in reverse order.
As the FBI ap...Mark--Two points, in reverse order.<br /><br />As the FBI approved Steele as an informant/source (CHS?) in early Feb 2016, they surely were briefed by him before September--or got his "work product" before September. Steele had breakfast with Bruce & Nellie Ohr at the Mayflower Hotel on Sat July 30. Ohr briefed McCabe and Lisa Page following the Steele meeting. <br /><br />The quid Forbeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08397667344368400622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-84082991632866069282020-03-05T22:50:40.417-06:002020-03-05T22:50:40.417-06:00Two things:
1. re: Steele's info on Russian ...Two things:<br /><br />1. re: Steele's info on Russian dirt on Hillary, and the FFG info on what PapaD supposedly told him -- the plural of "second-hand rumor" is not "evidence." <br /><br />2. second the motion on Coolidge. His brutal honesty is exemplified by teh story of him riding in a car with a friend, who pointed out to Coolidge a flock of sheep in field adjacent EZnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-46495538793055986492020-03-05T22:23:06.480-06:002020-03-05T22:23:06.480-06:00And, how about if ALL interviewees are automatical...And, how about if ALL interviewees are automatically entitled to copies of all such videos, before any charges, discovery, etc.aNanyMousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14452492302514671882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-66352356354045625062020-03-05T22:18:06.872-06:002020-03-05T22:18:06.872-06:00If I recall, Horowitz never interviewed Page, beca...If I recall, Horowitz never interviewed Page, because he had no authority to do so.aNanyMousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14452492302514671882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-35013933359160940402020-03-05T18:55:28.946-06:002020-03-05T18:55:28.946-06:00"...massive amounts of resources have been ti..."...massive amounts of resources have been tied up in this exercise for four years."<br /><br />Something that should be remembered and brought up often. For at least 4 years the full weight and power of the most powerful government in the history of mankind has been searching high and low for some evidence of criminality or disloyalty on the part of one Donald J Trump to no avail. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-80636458208431316712020-03-05T17:54:56.866-06:002020-03-05T17:54:56.866-06:00The missing element, the quid pro quo, is supplied...The missing element, the quid pro quo, is supplied explicitly by Steele: dirt on Hillary in exchange for sanctions relief. This is why I don't believe that the FBI only learned about Steele's dossier in September.mark wauckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08247066866195200890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-77649936626828528332020-03-05T17:21:48.649-06:002020-03-05T17:21:48.649-06:00Two parts stick out, at the outset of the post, we...Two parts stick out, at the outset of the post, we have this:<br />-->The OGC [Office of General Counsel] Unit Chief told us that of all the individuals associated with the Trump campaign best positioned to have received the alleged offer of assistance from Russia, Carter Page "quickly rose to the top" of the list because of his past connections to Russian officials<--<br /><br />Forbeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08397667344368400622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-48756931544057492662020-03-05T13:51:04.389-06:002020-03-05T13:51:04.389-06:00Is it possible that Page was always working for CI...<i>Is it possible that Page was always working for CIA even if he was not 'wittingly' involved in an 'FBI effort'?</i><br /><br />Maybe<br />Mike Sylwesterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09987402330015664312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-3017065333925748122020-03-05T12:43:15.168-06:002020-03-05T12:43:15.168-06:00If there is only one reform resulting from the Rus...If there is only one reform resulting from the Russia hoax/coup imbroglio, it better be that the FBI must video record all interviews--whether Mirandized or voluntary.Forbeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08397667344368400622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-59488824661943853662020-03-05T12:36:53.964-06:002020-03-05T12:36:53.964-06:00It's not clear to me that Mike actually sugges...It's not clear to me that Mike actually suggested that Trump was directly involved. Nor was Page anywhere close to "the limits of his 1st amendment protected activities."mark wauckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08247066866195200890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-60607822180450198082020-03-05T12:20:25.861-06:002020-03-05T12:20:25.861-06:00Respectfully, this idea is a bridge too far... wit...Respectfully, this idea is a bridge too far... with a cart before the horse riding on top of it! You guys have it backwards...<br /><br />As laid out directly in the sworn affidavit, both the CS-1 and the "wealthy investor" (who was also present at all those meetings with Buryakov) were "acting at the direction of the FBI"... thus, if we are to presume Trump is connected in MonsieurAmericahttp://monsieuramerica.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-57736122391213045122020-03-05T12:08:14.192-06:002020-03-05T12:08:14.192-06:00Merci, Monsieur! I don't do Twitter or I would...Merci, Monsieur! I don't do Twitter or I would have thanked you for the links. BTW, I greatly appreciated J. E. Dyer's comment in the other thread, however she repeated a very common misconception about FISA.mark wauckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08247066866195200890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-47985169225057661282020-03-05T11:43:12.171-06:002020-03-05T11:43:12.171-06:00Details on Carter's March 02 meeting including...Details on Carter's March 02 meeting including his video-taped allegations of solicited "false testimony" by FBI at link below. Also note: Carter claims that the Buryakov affidavit itself contains contains "false pleadings"...<br /><br />https://monsieuramerica.com/2019/12/27/pin-pointing-the-moment-carter-page-became-a-crossfire-target/ MonsieurAmericahttp://monsieuramerica.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-14769640412375410562020-03-05T11:19:09.755-06:002020-03-05T11:19:09.755-06:00Also why Durham's job is as difficult as it is...Also why Durham's job is as difficult as it is.mark wauckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08247066866195200890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-17731007011246220652020-03-05T11:18:30.756-06:002020-03-05T11:18:30.756-06:00This is true.This is true.mark wauckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08247066866195200890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-37718101890135095442020-03-05T09:33:27.955-06:002020-03-05T09:33:27.955-06:00@Mike
Re 2) --
Is it possible that Page was alwa...@Mike<br /><br />Re 2) --<br /><br />Is it possible that Page was always working for CIA even if he was not 'wittingly' involved in an 'FBI effort'? <br /><br />Does FBI always know what CIA is up to? Cassanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11255275730299959627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-40526176952876600902020-03-05T09:25:37.548-06:002020-03-05T09:25:37.548-06:00Ya know, if the FBI were forced to record their in...Ya know, if the FBI were forced to record their interviews, interrogations, and interactions with citizens, this would have had a hard time to get off the ground, that is, if the recordings were not "lost" like some of the written recollections.<br /><br />The Patriot Act formalized the transition from a criminal fighting organization to an internal, US Intelligence organization that TDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02764051812502858667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-57081480555174643492020-03-05T09:25:22.781-06:002020-03-05T09:25:22.781-06:00If you were a crook, and wanted to hide your crimi...If you were a crook, and wanted to hide your criminal behavior and acts; what better training is there than to have formerly been a crime fighting investigator in law enforcement? You would know how the system works in order to identify you as a criminal. You would know how they conduct surveillance and gather evidence against. You would know these things and more, and thereby be forewarned and Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04621133960646283334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-83291843466278745462020-03-05T09:07:24.635-06:002020-03-05T09:07:24.635-06:00I see two possibilities:
1) Carter Page simply wa...I see two possibilities:<br /><br />1) Carter Page simply was trying to involve himself in Russia's energy business, happened to meet Podobnyy at the energy symposium and then innocently communicated with Podobnyy about Russia's energy business.<br /><br />2) Page was involved wittingly in an FBI effort to prove that Podobnyy worked for Russian Intelligence. For that purpose, Page Mike Sylwesterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09987402330015664312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-9141700899884683362020-03-05T08:56:14.640-06:002020-03-05T08:56:14.640-06:00Or at least that's the FBI narrative--which Ho...Or at least that's the FBI narrative--which Horowitz repeats without critical comment. But that narrative doesn't really pass the laugh test.mark wauckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08247066866195200890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-64686354935896085812020-03-05T08:53:56.745-06:002020-03-05T08:53:56.745-06:00The Horowitz report gives its readers a false impr...The Horowitz report gives its readers a false impression that Carter Page maliciously spoiled the FBI's investigation of Evgeny Buryakov by revealing to Buryakov that he himself, Page, was Male-1.<br /><br />However, if you read <a href="https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/opa/press-releases/attachments/2015/01/26/buryakov-complaint.pdf" rel="nofollow">the US Justice Department's Mike Sylwesterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09987402330015664312noreply@blogger.com