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Wednesday, April 14, 2021

UPDATED: Is This One Way?

Fire, meet gasoline:



It's not totally clear to me how "historical inequities" enter into a police officer confusing their taser gun with their service handgun. Nevertheless, we now learn that the mayor of Brooklyn Center has found one way to immediately address "historical inequities"--or something like that:


Black City Manager Fired For Saying Officer Who Shot Daunte Wright Deserves ‘Due Process’


Now, here's a thought. Is there a difference between an "historical" and an "historic" inequity--or can one incident be both? If the two are different, should they be treated differently--and if so why? Here's what I'm getting at.

Rasmussen polling is reporting:


By a margin of 51% – 44%, voters said it is “likely” that cheating affected the 2020 election outcome. That includes 74% of Republicans, 30% of Democrats and 51% of independent voters. (Follow the link for the rest of the story.)


Based on that polling, is it fair to say that Election 2020 was at least presumptively an "historical inequity" that we need to confront, or was it an "historic inequity" that we need to confront--or maybe both? And, by the way, is Obama trying to distract our attention from something?

Also, what's the news about Ashli Babbit? Is it true that she contributed to her own demise by getting involved in an attempted aggravated armed robbery--or am I confusing her situation with someone else's problems? Should her death come under the historical/historic inequity umbrella of Election 2020? Is anyone confronting any of the above?

UPDATE: Fox News is reporting (via Red State):


Boganey stood, despite the pressure from the mayor and despite the pressure from the activists, because it was the right thing to do. He lost his job over standing up for that right, for due process.

“I lost my job, but I still have my integrity,” former City Manager Curt Boganey told Fox News in a statement, Tucker Carlson revealed on his Tuesday night show. They invited him to be on air but he turned it down because he was “hesitant about making any media appearances,” the Daily Caller said. That makes me think all the more of him.

If we’re not standing for that concept, what are we about anymore as a country?


Integrity? Wow--what world is this guy living in? Hey, hat's off to him. And take note of this: He doesn't say anything about confronting "historical inequities". For that matter, Obama didn't say anything about "integrity." Weird. Or maybe not.

Jonathan Turley weighs in. His entire article is worth reading (linked in tweet):



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When Brooklyn Center City Manager Curt Boganey said a full investigation would be conducted and due process afforded to any accused officers, he was fired. Soon after the shooting, and before any underlying facts were established, Minnesota Governor Tim Walz denounced “another life of a Black man taken by law enforcement” and made a connection to the trial of police officer Derek Chauvin, occurring a few miles away.

Due process is not a dirty word or a dog whistle. Boganey was trying to do what Walz was unwilling to do and respect the rule of law. ...

It is possible that the shooting was accidental. In the video, the officer is heard yelling “taser, taser, taser” before she swears and says “I just shot him.” We have seen many cases of officers confusing tasers with service weapons in struggles. There have been design and training changes to address these tragedies. The shape and color of tasers were changed to reduce the “weapon confusion” incidents. Although some departments have experimented with different tasers, most still believe tasers shaped like guns offer the best tactical use. They have tried training, utility belt placement, and other means to avoid weapon confusion.

But in dangerous adrenaline driven encounters, split second mistakes still occur. One of the most infamous cases of weapon confusion occurred in 2009. Oscar Grant was on the ground in a prone position when Bay Area Rapid Transit officer Johannes Mehserle told colleagues he was going to taser him. Mehserle then shot Grant in the back with his service weapon, and he was later found guilty of involuntary manslaughter.

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These weapon confusion cases are all tragic and involve all races and genders. In many cases, the use of the tasers would have been deemed reasonable. The same may be true in the incident with Wright, ...

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Boganey shows that defending due process is now a precarious choice in these times, one few politicians are willing to make. The contradictions he sought to avoid are the rallying cries of those in power. Unfortunately, just as due process once defined us before, the disregard of due process now may define us in these tragedies.  ...


13 comments:

  1. The powers that be are already working on it. Suspicion is they got an advance look at jug ear's memo. Cop who murdered Ashli Babbit, name unknown, got his case broomed by the DOJ. OTOH, Kimberly Potter--I still don't understand how she mistook a gun for a taser--will face manslaughter charges (oddly enough, I may be on board with that). Anyway, to shift topics ever so slightly, the thinking here tells us the likelihood of Durham actually charging anyone is less than zero.

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  2. well, let's see...Brooklyn Center was 72% paleface & 14% black in 2000 which turned into 49% paleface & 25% black in 2010. Hmmm, any bets on 2020 and beyond? Reminds me of a place called Ferguson which went from 99% paleface in 1970 to 29% in 2010...

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    1. Steve Sailer explains some of how those changes take place:

      https://www.takimag.com/article/a-house-divided/

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    2. uh, well thanks I guess Mark for pointing out this "informative" article...guess I'll start drinking early tonight, sigh

      Meanwhile, my college roommate grew up in Oxon Hill, MD, a nice little blue collar area just outside of DC. Have many fond memories of spending time there with his folks who, hard-headed as they were, would not leave until they were the only palefaces left and their sons were terrified for their safety...place is a shootin' gallery now, SMDH

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  3. Look at the bright side of things. The Regime stole an election, they can no longer count on the allegiance of the majority of the population who consider them illegitimate, they no longer have the loyalty of the police who they criminalize, or the military who they disrespect, they already have various groups, Antifa, BLM, who are totally out of control and our sports, entertainment and other industries are openly anti-American. It sounds like a perfect recipe for ordinary citizens to do what they want, or what they can get away with. What government?

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  4. Not sure of the total funding that will go toward African American farmers, as part of Biden's Covid Relief Bill. Billions?

    Do folks remember that Obama gave billions to black farmers back in 2010? The program was rife with corruption and mismanagement.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/26/us/farm-loan-bias-claims-often-unsupported-cost-us-millions.html

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/05/how-did-progressive-journalists-get-pigford-so-wrong/275593/

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  5. The US Sun is the only outlet to publish this much detail on Daunte Wright, the young man his mother called “angelic”:

    WANTED MAN Tragic Daunte Wright ‘choked woman and tried to steal $820 from her at gunpoint’, court docs show

    https://www.the-sun.com/news/2697094/daunte-wright-allegedly-choked-woman-steal-money/

    The article is the only one I’ve seen that includes his mug shot from this incident when he attempted to rob a woman of $820, choking her and threatening to shoot her. Article includes image of the current arrest warrant for his not having appeared at a hearing on another matter and the Statement of Probable Cause re the 2019 aggravated assault and attempted robbery incident.

    The mayor of this town stated his belief that officers should not be armed when they make traffic stops.

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    1. "George Floyd's girlfriend was Daunte Wright's teacher, Wright's aunt says"

      https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/548040-george-floyds-girlfriend-was-daunte-wrights-teacher-wrights-aunt-says

      No wonder, I guess

      Frank

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    2. Will the real daunte wright stand up?

      Two pictures of daunte wright

      https://twitter.com/johncardillo/status/1381604925474541569

      Frank

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    3. This is the best article I have read on Daunte Wright:

      The Real Reason for Daunte Wright’s Death
      His death is a tragedy, but we need to look at the full picture of why it happened.


      https://spectator.org/daunte-wright-shooting/

      I highly recommend it.

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    4. Yes, he puts into words what everyone knows.

      Related, Scott Adams made the point, what statistics do we have on people killed by police who *don't* resist arrest?

      Resisting police seems to be part of growing up in that environment, sort of a badge of honor.

      Frank

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  6. Ok then...what do you call a country where due process is no longer sacrosanct?

    How about a third world ****hole, As someone once said?

    -ghost of Trump

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  7. Ah the collision of political narratives mixed with social media and main stream media hype does it again.

    The US has...
    A political propaganda problem...
    A police state problem...
    A social construct problem...
    A historical inaccuracies problem...
    A law enforcement accountability problem...

    Mix them all together and a cop with apparently very bad judgement, poor muscle memory and apparently poor training and you create a national crisis that will result in millions of not billions in damages.

    We got problems alright... I can see at least 10 places in factual history where these things could be very different starting with qualified immunity, passing through section 230, absolute privilege, conditional privilege, New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, the DOE, etc.

    Complex problems should not be bicycle shedded.

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