tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post8998075823835004955..comments2023-10-19T21:48:56.560-05:00Comments on meaning in history: UPDATED: Is It Possible The FBI Genuinely Believed The Russia Hoax?mark wauckhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08247066866195200890noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-1596395139489887942019-08-02T11:15:42.199-05:002019-08-02T11:15:42.199-05:00However, when you can ID superiors who have change...However, when you can ID superiors who have changed the rules to fasttrack actions that lack predication--opening of investigations, submission or renewal of FISA warrants, etc.--the likelihood that someone will be able to testify to actual instructions increases.mark wauckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08247066866195200890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-1437382304212784532019-08-02T11:08:15.865-05:002019-08-02T11:08:15.865-05:00Its both.
Subordinates do whatever they can to ple...Its both.<br />Subordinates do whatever they can to please superiors to curry favor and promotion.<br />Subordinates (unless rogue) will rarely venture off the reservation without the implicit or explicit approval of superiors. <br />This thing goes all the way to the top. The problem, as always, will be proving it.Cassandernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-42997413431815614292019-08-02T10:40:41.667-05:002019-08-02T10:40:41.667-05:00Yes, what passes for education now.Yes, what passes for education now.mark wauckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08247066866195200890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-82586618226717566292019-08-02T10:38:54.486-05:002019-08-02T10:38:54.486-05:00The biographer's name was Kershaw (not Krensha...The biographer's name was Kershaw (not Krenshaw).Mike Sylwesterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09987402330015664312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-59786246607786115612019-08-02T10:37:14.380-05:002019-08-02T10:37:14.380-05:00The best of the best of our education system. I&#...The best of the best of our education system. I'm thinking there is now an .gov app to replace wetting a finger and holding it up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-54937734477547528022019-08-02T10:26:31.248-05:002019-08-02T10:26:31.248-05:00As it happens, I was puzzling over this exact ques...As it happens, I was puzzling over this exact question yesterday--wondering whether Barr and Durham would be able to work up the ladder till they got the people giving explicit orders or whether it was all implicit, as you suggest.<br /><br />As you say, we can't suppose that subordinates of people on the level of Brennan/Clapper/Comey would "work toward them" at the risk of seriousmark wauckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08247066866195200890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-49885598704517514412019-08-02T10:16:18.632-05:002019-08-02T10:16:18.632-05:00I can't say what the practice is now, but in m...I can't say what the practice is now, but in my day the FBI did its own "analysis" and didn't contract out. Quite frankly, I have to suppose that a product this amateurish was done in-house.mark wauckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08247066866195200890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-32671434196230870082019-08-02T09:15:37.742-05:002019-08-02T09:15:37.742-05:00Since Brennan, Clapper and Comey have left office,...Since Brennan, Clapper and Comey have left office, they have expressed publicly their contempt for Donald Trump. While they still were in office, their immediate subordinates surely recognized that contempt. Those subordinates surely figured that they could please those chiefs by providing information that would confirm that contempt toward Trump.<br /><br />Brennan, Clapper and Comey did not Mike Sylwesterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09987402330015664312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-18198579751437556032019-08-02T08:54:21.894-05:002019-08-02T08:54:21.894-05:00When I was a USAF Intelligence Officer, I served a...When I was a USAF Intelligence Officer, I served a year in a long-term planning office in the Pentagon. There I was involved somewhat in contracts for long-term analyses. <br /><br />I would not say that the awarding of such contracts is corrupt, but I did see that the contractors were desperate to please the government officials who award and renew the contracts. The contractors are strongly Mike Sylwesterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09987402330015664312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-48596210638566217062019-08-02T08:28:12.967-05:002019-08-02T08:28:12.967-05:00Perfectly illustrates the danger to the nation whe...Perfectly illustrates the danger to the nation when conspiracy theory replaces reality based analysis in our Deep State "Intel Community". They are prone to blindly interpret all real world phenomena in light of their conspiracy theories and to propagate them to both the public and the governing elite. The process feeds on itself and leads to real world action that seeks to disrupt the mark wauckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08247066866195200890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-72591835394151821462019-08-02T08:22:57.195-05:002019-08-02T08:22:57.195-05:00You can be sure that the FBI's analysts contra...You can be sure that the FBI's analysts contracted some think-tanks to provide "independent" threat analyses. Mike Sylwesterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09987402330015664312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-46235785804810866212019-08-02T08:21:16.350-05:002019-08-02T08:21:16.350-05:00As soon as Donald Trump announced his candidacy in...As soon as Donald Trump announced his candidacy in mid-2015, the Trump-haters in the US Intelligence Community's leadership assumed (I think) that Russian Intelligence must have some incriminating information about his business and personal activities in Russia. <br /><br />Furthermore, Trump could be -- or already had been -- blackmailed by Russian Intelligence. <br /><br />This assumption Mike Sylwesterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09987402330015664312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-29121380449232574052019-08-02T07:58:27.564-05:002019-08-02T07:58:27.564-05:00My understanding of this is that the "study&q...My understanding of this is that the "study" was written by the FBI's own analysts--like the CIA they now have a virtual army of them. Outside contractors are called in to help with political use of NSA databases.mark wauckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08247066866195200890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-84732958714996015412019-08-02T07:51:48.443-05:002019-08-02T07:51:48.443-05:00The Intelligence Community awards contracts to com...The Intelligence Community awards contracts to companies that write studies warning about various threats. <br /><br />If a company proposes to write a study warning, for example, that conspiracy theories are a threat, then that company might win a government contract to write such a threat. <br /><br />On the other hand, if a company proposes to write a study warning that making a big deal aboutMike Sylwesterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09987402330015664312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-72563894673566525102019-08-01T21:58:11.254-05:002019-08-01T21:58:11.254-05:00Honest minds think alike. Honest minds think alike. Gray Brendlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14397074775924557534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-1636393994519313692019-08-01T21:54:07.407-05:002019-08-01T21:54:07.407-05:00And I wrote my comment above before reading this c...And I wrote my comment above before reading this comment of yours. :-)mark wauckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08247066866195200890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-65772765191034902702019-08-01T21:53:26.873-05:002019-08-01T21:53:26.873-05:00I think that's the answer--and it goes to the ...I think that's the answer--and it goes to the kind of people they've been hiring. People who think along very conventional lines, as told to them in the MSM. Not independent thinkers at all.mark wauckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08247066866195200890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-11777787140744104492019-08-01T21:44:44.885-05:002019-08-01T21:44:44.885-05:00Now I've read the post, and I stand behind the...Now I've read the post, and I stand behind the previous comment wholeheartedly. But I would add, that it seems that the folks who are writing this fiction are depending much on their friends in the media to push this and push it hard. Gray Brendlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14397074775924557534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-37385545173509671072019-08-01T21:32:43.077-05:002019-08-01T21:32:43.077-05:00I have not read a thing in this post but yes, the ...I have not read a thing in this post but yes, the FBI, like most of my connected acquaintances, believed it before they read it. It fit all stereotypes and checked all of their boxes. The percentage of their mind that said maybe not this; was filled with 99.9% certainly that if not those crimes there were others just waiting to be uncovered. <br /><br />Funny thing though, having hung out with Gray Brendlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14397074775924557534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-77727664575029656852019-08-01T21:32:08.731-05:002019-08-01T21:32:08.731-05:00As to the FBI actually believing the Russia hoax.....As to the FBI actually believing the Russia hoax.. I suppose that needs clarification as to "who" it is at the FBI doing the believing, i.e., who is "the FBI"?<br /><br />Both the perpetration of the hoax, and the "investigation of collusion" required compartmented lines of communication, with persons acting separately, resulting in few people knowing or in a Forbeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08397667344368400622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-24018992875238239202019-08-01T21:13:06.179-05:002019-08-01T21:13:06.179-05:00Conspiracy theory as evidence of a threat is prett...Conspiracy theory as evidence of a threat is pretty thin gruel, i.e. theory as evidence is not actual evidence (facts)--it's a theory. <br /><br />Now, conspiracy to commit violence is another matter as the fact of the conspiracy is the actual evidence.<br /><br />The FBI seems to be concluding that conspiracy theory nut-jobs are a new threat, but the tinfoil hat crowd squawking about black Forbeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08397667344368400622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-45951994446691794332019-08-01T20:47:34.895-05:002019-08-01T20:47:34.895-05:00This story is a propaganda piece designed to defle...This story is a propaganda piece designed to deflect criticism toward the FBI in the event that Horowitz and Durham come down hard on them for their role in the coup against Trump. Wray is prepping the media battlespace with a ready-made excuse for all the criminality that occurred under Comey's watch. Wray will deny that anything illegal ever occurred, and if it did occur, it was justified Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04621133960646283334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-69585202462062485972019-08-01T20:45:46.267-05:002019-08-01T20:45:46.267-05:00My agency is no better. The powers that be swear ...My agency is no better. The powers that be swear loyalty to all the modern trends pushing equity, equality, LGBT, they wear their pins, they talk up the special emphasis groups and tell us to bring in our "authentic selves."<br /><br />That is until a Christian expresses his beliefs; or a conservative. Then they don't want us to bring in our authentic selves.Joenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-40525930672779396882019-08-01T20:38:29.530-05:002019-08-01T20:38:29.530-05:00Also, the Ku Klux Klan was not a right-wing group....Also, the Ku Klux Klan was not a right-wing group. It was the Dems. Now the new targets are Christians, whites, white men and Jews. <br /><br />Some things never change.Joenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1608697421187043479.post-47112324553146598542019-08-01T20:35:45.898-05:002019-08-01T20:35:45.898-05:00I halfway through this FBI "document" an...I halfway through this FBI "document" and all the focus is on the far-right. There's a lot more violence on the Left and it's never mentioned. There's more violence in the black community but that is taboo to say so we talk about white supremacy. Joenoreply@blogger.com