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Tuesday, February 11, 2020

An Update Re Steele - Papadopoulos.

Svetlana Lokhova has a new thread that's basically talking about the same things Margot Cleveland and others have been doing by examining the FISA report footnotes. To make it easy to read I'll paste it in in text format. Lokhova is talking about the person identified in Horowitz's report as "Person 1" who I, like commenter Yancey Ward, understand to be Sergei Millian, a Russian emigre in the UK.

This is the meat of the issue. If you actually spent time to look into what happened I think you would be appalled. Remember they say ok we are not going to talk to the Campaign. We are going to send people in, wire them up and have them talk to the individuals. That happened. That happened in August, September and October and it all came back exculpatory. People said don’t know what you are talking about. It is exculpatory not only as to the relationship with the Russians but as to the specific facts.  
And they never did anything about that, they just pressed ahead but they never informed the court. They were told they didn’t have probable cause to get a warrant so they took the Steele Dossier which they had done nothing to verify and they used that to get the warrant. Collapse everything. They withheld from the court all the exculpatory information and they withheld from the court information about the lack of reliability of Steele.  
The real interesting thing here, and to me the major takeaway actually, is after the election, because in January Steele was dealing with one person, he only talked to one person, that is what we call the primary sub source, that person who had the so-called network of sub-sources. When they finally got around to talking to him, he said I don’t know what Steele is talking about I didn’t tell him this stuff or it was mostly barroom talk and rumour. I made it clear to him that this was my own suppositions or theories.” 
And at that point it was clear that the dossier was a sham. But what happens, what happens at that point. They don’t tell the court. They continue to get FISA warrants based on that dossier. And more damming [sic] they actually filed a statement with the court saying we talked to the sub-source and found him credible and co-operative and that they put in into bolster. When actually what he was being truthful about was that the dossier was garbage.

This is a good little summary to read after wading through the footnote material. Note that Lokhova is saying what others have said--by January, 2017, AT THE LATEST, the FBI knew that the entire Steele "dossier" was BS, but they kept investigating, getting FISA renewals, trying to frame Flynn, etc.

Now you see why Grassley and Johnson were so exercised about Horowitz misleading the public, and why Barr and Durham publicly disputed Horowitz's claims about the FBI having adequate predication.

And all this therefore leads to Rosenstein, Comey, McCabe, and Team Mueller.

14 comments:

  1. I hope her Lawsuit does well:
    https://dailycaller.com/2019/08/13/spygate-halper-lawsuit-flynn/

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    1. That should make for some interesting legal arguments and testimony--Halper claiming immunity as a government agent! Offhand, I'd say he would have no more immunity than the government would have, and obviously only if his illegal/tortious actions were undertaken at the direction of the government. Lokhova, of course, is a UK citizen, but Flynn is a US citizen. Can the US government intentionally defame its citizens with impunity? How about citizens of a FFG, perhaps with the collusion of the FFG? How about media operatives acting as agents of the Deep State?

      Can you say "can of worms"?

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  2. There has been SO much criminal conduct, by SO many FBI/DOJ employees that I have to wonder (1) how many will be prosecuted; and (2) how those two institutions can ever regain the trust of the American people. Devin Nunes comment about losing trust for generations is correct.

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  3. Does anyone know the exact Jan. 2017 date, of when the FBI learned of just how pathetic the Dossier was?
    If it was before the first renewal was sought (Jan. 12), that'd be all the more brutal.

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    1. Early December, 2016, is when the FBI first got around to talking to Steele's "source".

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    2. OK.
      One wonders why they waited 'til then (months after the original application), seeing that Steele had started shopping his stuff around in Aug.

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    3. One doesn't really wonder. One just says to oneself--they never would have bothered if Trump hadn't won. Going through the motions.

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    4. Not vetting the Steele garbage BEFORE the original FISA application is the smoking gun that tells you it was fabricate for that purpose; they expected Hillary to win, so, nobody have would ever find out about any of this, including the fact they didn't vett the allegations.

      IOW, they knew it was all bullshit so they could spy on the Trump campaign in final weeks of the election, and there never was any intention of proscuting anybody as a result of what they found from Carter Page's communications, so what difference would it have made if they didn't vett it?

      It only matters because Trump won, and then they were forced to get a renewal so they could keep up on whatever the new admin was up to. So now they had to start back-filling the files to show they actual tried to vett they info that Steele provided.

      To no one's surprise, it turns out to be made up bullshit, but they manage to hide that and other inconvenient facts from the FISC court through all of the subsequent renewals.

      That's not the action of incompetent people; it's the action of corrupt people who weaponized the National Intelligence apparatus of the US government for partisan political purposes before the election, and then redouble their effort afterwards, to try to conduct their own soft coup to take out a duly elected president.

      These are the people who deserve life in prison, not Roger Stone.

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    5. "Ackshually..." spying on the Trump campaign was not the primary objective of the "collusion" hoax. The primary objective was to smear Trump as a Russian agent before the election.

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  4. FBI never did anything like this before. This was the first time. There are no incidents of such grievous ... "missteps" of any kind prior to 2016 that the public has never heard about. This was ... an aberration. An unfortunate series of purely innocent, well-intentioned errors that has been addressed and preventative measures implemented to ensure that it does not happen again. Yes, mistakes were made, but trust us. Also, we're going to need another substantial budget increase.

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    1. And that, of course, is very reassuring. First time mistake, never again.

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    2. All seventeen "errors". just so happening to go in an anti-DJT direction. Pure coincidence!

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  5. >And all this therefore leads to Rosenstein, Comey, McCabe, and Team Mueller.<

    I wonder if Rosenstein was really wearing a wire when he asked "if they want him to wear a wire"?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/21/us/politics/rod-rosenstein-wear-wire-25th-amendment.html

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    1. I very much doubt it, but I'd LMAO if it turned out to be the case.

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